LS600hL Oil Change Procedure w/pics
12-23-09, 01:57 AM
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It should work fine, if not better. The metal tubing in the cap is perforated. The oil is forced through, and is filtered from the center, out and upwards back into the engine. Where the aftermarket uses plastic retainers as shown in your link, Toyota bonds the paper element with a narrower 3/16" wide molded resin instead. The one you have traps and directs the oil more efficiently, whereas the Toyota element allows some seepage to occur at the extremities (probably cheaper to produce as well).
12-24-09, 09:52 PM
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The drain pipe is actually optional. By the time you're done draining the pan, the oil in the housing is so minimal, I just remove the whole assembly in one go, replace the filter and o-rings. I don't fuss with the plastic drain nipple and not a drop of oil touches the plastic around the access panel.
As always, YMMV - the end result is the same either way.
Nice write-up by the way!
As always, YMMV - the end result is the same either way.
Nice write-up by the way!
12-25-09, 01:12 AM
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I also prefer to use Pennzoil Platinum, depending on the availability of the 5W20 on the shelf where I purchase my oil. On my first change, Q was available, Penn not. However, when you examine the containers the two come in, it's obvious they come from the same supplier, whoever that may be, and only the color of the container (silver vs bronze) is different. That tells me they are possibly brand-named in the same plant; on the other hand, the chemistry between the two may be done to spec (i.e. chemistry), so who knows?
12-25-09, 01:21 AM
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The drain pipe is actually optional. By the time you're done draining the pan, the oil in the housing is so minimal, I just remove the whole assembly in one go, replace the filter and o-rings. I don't fuss with the plastic drain nipple and not a drop of oil touches the plastic around the access panel.
As always, YMMV - the end result is the same either way.
Nice write-up by the way!
As always, YMMV - the end result is the same either way.
Nice write-up by the way!
Thanks for the compliment!
12-27-09, 03:41 AM
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One thing I might add... I always trusted the dealer on my previous 460 and now the 600 (I know, big mistake). But at the back of my mind I know human nature will frequently take the easy way out and that's when laziness rises to the occasion. There are two O-ring seals on the filter cap, a large one on the main body, and a smaller one on the filter drain nut.
Two scheduled oil changes had already been done by the dealer. However, I could easily tell the drain nut had never been removed. The oil in that area had gelled, and the nut was very had to break loose (iow, it had never been touched from the beginning). While not a critical change, that O-ring should be replaced, as per Toyota specs. We pay for a thorough service after all. So many things go on in places we don't have access to - and even if we did, we certainly couldn't stand next to the mechanic the whole time. Oil changes are often performed by the less savvy, if not junior staff. To me anyway, it's a constant reminder that there is no substitute for DIY.
Two scheduled oil changes had already been done by the dealer. However, I could easily tell the drain nut had never been removed. The oil in that area had gelled, and the nut was very had to break loose (iow, it had never been touched from the beginning). While not a critical change, that O-ring should be replaced, as per Toyota specs. We pay for a thorough service after all. So many things go on in places we don't have access to - and even if we did, we certainly couldn't stand next to the mechanic the whole time. Oil changes are often performed by the less savvy, if not junior staff. To me anyway, it's a constant reminder that there is no substitute for DIY.
01-27-10, 04:03 PM
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06-03-10, 09:38 PM
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The filters I buy from Toyota/Lexus in my area do not include a drain plug washer. And the box I bought was sealed from the factory. Are you using the same one?
05-21-12, 03:34 PM
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Well...I changed my oil today for the first time since I have owned the car. Armed with this thread for guidance, my first surprise was when I opened the access cover to get at the filter and discovered the dealer in Nevada who changed the oil previously had left the big socket stuck to the filter housing. So now I have two.....
As others noted, there really is no need to remove the small drain plug and use the drain pipe. I just unscrewed the whole thing and dumped the oil in the drain pan.
As others noted, there really is no need to remove the small drain plug and use the drain pipe. I just unscrewed the whole thing and dumped the oil in the drain pan.
