dimapb

[QUOTE=jmcraney;4228415]My car was leased and was repurchased by Lexus from a leasing company (LFS).

jmcraney

I am not surprised that the cars are being bought-back from leasers. I would be interested to know if the title for your car had a wind noise notation added after it was repurchased. I believe that some states do not require it and Lexus and the leaser would certainly want to avoid that because it instantly devalues the car. It is probably easier to get around putting a notation on the title when the buyback is a multi-tier or third party transaction.

jmcraney

Here is another wind noise buyback. It's already sold.

This one is a 2007 LS460L VIN JTHGL46F575012777.

http://www.hallummotors.com/webtemplate.aspx?IID=355756

If you don't want to chase the link, here is part of what it said:

Quote:
OK, if you've ever wanted to SAVE BIG MONEY on a LEXUS LS460L then HERE'S YOUR CHANCE! This is an IMMACULATE 2007 LS460 Long Wheel Base Luxury Sedan with ONLY 7K MILES! Get this, Lexus re-purchased this car from its owner because of wind noise! They applied new insulation in the doors and it's quiet as a mouse! It is a Lexus Customer Dissatisfaction Buyback vehicle that is still completely covered under the original factory warranty, which is until 4-30-2011 or 50K miles, whichever occurs first!
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The latest wind noise buyback tally, including this one, looks like this:

#1 JTHBL46F775045743 2007 LS460
#2 JTHGL46F875003331 2007 LS460L
#3 JTHGL46F175008967 2007 LS460L
#4 JTHGL46F975002186 2007 LS460L
#5 JTHBL46F875008216 2007 LS460
#6 JTHGL46F475017758 2007 LS460L
#7 JTHGL46F175009066 2007 LS460L
#8 JTHGL46F575004856 2007 LS460L
#9 JTHGL46F875018220 2007 LS460L
#10 JTHGL46F075016218 2007 LS460L
#11 JTHBL46F585065636 2008 LS460
#12 JTHBL46F875048814 2007 LS460
#13 JTHBL46F075008162 2007 LS460
#14 JTHBL46F275022984 2007 LS460
#15 JTHGL46F575012777 2007 LS460L

Midwestuse

Has anyone been able to confirm that the wind noise issue is actually getting fixed on these buy backs before they are re-sold? My guess is they are NOT and since they disclosed wind noise those buyers can no longer complain about it or expect a fix. I currently have a 07 Audi S4 on a lease and am heavily considering a used LS460 once my lease is up.

mr29rose

i dropped my car off for severla tsib fixes including wind noise.

i just got an es350 loaner. wow, it makes me realize how my ls460l executive isnt as bad as i thought. the es350 is very noisy and windy etc. aside, from noise, it makes me appreciate all my luxuries i have. i dont think i would every buy a es350. it seems so cheap inside.

i cant wait to get my baby back. wow its gonna feel so good to get inside it again. im hoping i will feel a difference with all the tsib fixes i told them to do.

ls460love

I completely agree. Little nits in my car drive me up a wall. Well that is until I get in other cars. I was recently in a 2008 7 series and it was much more noisy inside (both in wind and road noise).

jmcraney

Contrary to what most of the eBay and dealer ads say, it looks like the wind-noise-buyback vehicles might not be covered by the manufacturer's warranty. If you are buying a used Lexus LS you should check very carefully.

http://www.lexus.com/cpo/overview/warranty.html

Part of what it says under the Exclusions clause:

Quote:
Lemon Law
A vehicle with (a) major, repeated problem(s) that has been repurchased by, or had its purchase price renegotiated with, the manufacturer. State laws then earmark these as Lemon Law, Buyback or Salvage vehicles. These vehicles are ineligible for Lexus Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty coverage.
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jmcraney

Here is another wind noise buyback on eBay.

This one is a 2007 LS460 VIN JTHBL46F575021960.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...#ht_500wt_1517

If you don't want to chase the link, here is part of what it said:

Quote:
This car was a Manufacturers buy back, I checked with the Lexus dealer and they said, looks like it had a wind noise problem that wasn't addressed fast enough to customers satisifaction, so Lexus bought back or traded for another car as a good will gesture, check with a Lexus dealer for extra info. The wind noise issue was taken care of with I think with a new windshield seal, and I have driven on a few occasions and there'e no winbd noise, but is on record as being a buy back and title will say Manufacturers buy back. Car is under full factory warranty to about Feburary 2011, bumper to bumper. If you don't mind saving a few Thousand dollors for a minor issue that was taken care of, You save a few bucks for having Manufactures buy back on your title because of the buy back issue, see last picture for copy of currant title. Will meet at Atlanta airport if driving home or make availiable to shipper. Check out my feedback and other auctions and bid with confidence you'll get a LS460 as described.
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The latest wind noise buyback tally, including this one, looks like this:

#1 JTHBL46F775045743 2007 LS460
#2 JTHGL46F875003331 2007 LS460L
#3 JTHGL46F175008967 2007 LS460L
#4 JTHGL46F975002186 2007 LS460L
#5 JTHBL46F875008216 2007 LS460
#6 JTHGL46F475017758 2007 LS460L
#7 JTHGL46F175009066 2007 LS460L
#8 JTHGL46F575004856 2007 LS460L
#9 JTHGL46F875018220 2007 LS460L
#10 JTHGL46F075016218 2007 LS460L
#11 JTHBL46F585065636 2008 LS460
#12 JTHBL46F875048814 2007 LS460
#13 JTHBL46F075008162 2007 LS460
#14 JTHBL46F275022984 2007 LS460
#15 JTHGL46F575012777 2007 LS460L
#16 JTHBL46F575021960 2007 LS460

bluex5

Have you hear anything new from your dealer? My dealer states that there is no tsib.

PatsSoxfan

No I have not and I am wondering what the heck is going on. I am going to see the sales manager this evening when they show the new generation RX350 to the public. I will certainly inquire about the supposed wind noise "fix". If this fix deals with taking the doors apart, etc. I will tell them to forget about it. That is NOT the fix. But, I am holding out some hope that they actually now are ready to implement jmcraney's REAL fix. I will report back tonight or tomorrow.

jmcraney

A year ago, when I first tried to get Lexus interested in doing something to help LS owners who were experiencing wind noise problems, I opined that some of the LSs, even though they didn't have the wind noise when they were new, would develop the problem as they aged. We are seeing hints of that in some reports in this discussion thread. So, if you think your car is developing the wind noise problem, it's probably not your imagination.

Here is a link to a CarFax report for a 2007 LS460. I am not sure why we are able to view this report, you usually have to pay to see these kinds of records. Also, this seem to be a complete set of records, kind of unusual for Carfax because the servicer doesn't always report these details.

It is noteworthy that the car was driven for a year (23,148 miles) before the first report of unusual noise (body noise). Then, a month later (24,898 miles) there is a notation of wind noise. There is no indication that the car was repaired - that's probably when they told the owner it was his imagination. This may be an example of a car that didn't have the wind noise problem when it was new but developed it after it had been in service for a while.

http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...#DetailSection

Quote:
CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 5 billion vehicle history events and found 15 record(s) for this 2007 LEXUS LS 460L (JTHGL46F775006186).

1/02/2007 NICB Vehicle manufactured
and shipped to original dealer

01/17/2007 7 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle serviced
Pre-delivery inspection completed
Safety inspection performed

01/23/2007 Louisiana
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection

01/27/2007 30 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle sold

01/27/2007 Louisiana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Baton Rouge, LA Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Registered as
personal vehicle
Loan or lien reported

05/03/2007 5,026 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle serviced
Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed

07/16/2007 9,900 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle serviced
Tires balanced
Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed

10/22/2007 15,182 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle serviced
Four wheel alignment performed
Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed
Tire condition and pressure checked
Tires replaced

01/03/2008 20,022 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle serviced
Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed

02/19/2008 23,148 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle serviced
Body noise checked
Four wheel alignment performed

03/25/2008 24,898 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle serviced
Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed
Wind noise checked
Tire condition and pressure checked

04/28/2008 27,369 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle serviced
Tires replaced
Four wheel alignment performed
Tires balanced
Four tires mounted and balanced
Tire condition and pressure checked

05/30/2008 29,020 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle serviced
Tire condition and pressure checked
Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed

09/09/2008 35,689 Price LeBlanc Automotive
Baton Rouge, LA
www.leblancauto.com Vehicle serviced
Manufacturer's recommended maintenance performed
Front brake pads replaced and rotors resurfaced
Battery replaced

01/29/2009 Louisiana
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Baton Rouge, LA Registration issued or renewed
Loan or lien reported
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PatsSoxfan

They must be sending the parts by a rowboat from Japan. I asked the salesman "when are the parts arriving and exactly what the "fix" entails. Here is his reply:

"Nothing yet, Lexus is telling us we will see it in the next couple of months but, no specifics."

jmcraney

Here is an interesting post that recently appeared on the "Other-Lexus-Owners-Group" site. I don't think the "fix" that he is referring to is the Triangle-Trim-Fix that has been discussed in this thread.

http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums...howtopic=55607

Here is what was said at the above link:

Quote:
i was one of the first to receive the wind noise fix almost one and a half years ago. i know i didnt purchase the car with this extreme wind noise anomaly, it suddenly developed after one month post purchase. well guess what, it developed again.it is quite humiliating when your female passengers try to put the windows up thinking they are opened a little.in 2007, i had a difficult time with corporate lexus re. my dissatisfaction, so im worried now 2 years later,that there isnt any recourse. has anyone experienced wind noise again after the fix, and now what can be done to rectify this problem?
End Quote

I am a Mac user and the other site doesn't seem to work very well with my browser. I have tried to send him a message but I don't seem to be able to do it. Somebody could do this owner a real favor by suggesting that he look at this thread.

Vi-Tuyen

Lexus take forever to fix this. They are keep promising.

I just found out there is another problem with my 08 Ls. here is the problem: whenever open my driver side window down haft way or little bit more down, and then I try to close the window up. I notice that the seal on the B pillar is kink, and when I put my ear to it, i hear another windnoise. ( this is suck). I row my window all the way down, and look at the seal spot, there is a hard kink mark on the seal that make the seal not close properly. look like it been there since day one. this happen everytime when I row my window haft way down.
I will let the dealer know about this.

joeyb

I just got mine back, and it's a definite improvement. The work order does not reference a TSB #. Here are the parts #.

2 757593-50010 Pad
8 75562-30070 clip
6 90269-A0006 Rivet
1 67831-50050 Cover
1 67832-50030 Cover
1 68101-50200 Glass Sub Assy
1 68102-50200 Glass Sub Assy
1 67495-50200 Cover
1 67496-50200 Cover