Ex-Lexic

I read the thread on the LWB/SWB poll. Many interesting comments. I can't decide. I really DON'T need the long wheel base for passenger comfort. We seldom have people in the back. So my question is: what are some other advantages of long wheel base over short? A couple that come to mind are: sleeker look, smoother ride... What else?

GS3Tek

iTrader: (8)

That would be really the main reason for the lwb-passenger roominess.

2nd factor (to me) is the "luxury" factor, considering that you're buying a flagship, it is nice to have that lwb.

If you hardly transport people around, go for the swb since it will/should drive better than the lwb...extra metals/weight....and put that extra $ into your pocket

Much easier parking too and more room in your garage

PhilipMSPT

iTrader: (5)

Comfort? If you are planning on driving the LS most of the time, the SWB should suffice. If you are going to be driven in the LS, get the LWB. Either-or, it will be a comfortable ride: ultra-quiet and cush.

Handling? The LWB will have a bit more handling (bigger base of support) than the SWB. But I'm pretty sure that with all the electronic nannies of a Lexus, you won't be able to tell a difference.

Smoother? Maybe no difference between the two; the LS is known for ultra-lux ultra-smooth ride, no matter if its the LS430, LS460, or LS460L.

Sleeker? Definately, as an elongated car gives it a wind-swept kinetic style.

Status symbol? Maybe not. The LS in either wheelbase is status symbol enough. For example, I don't see much difference in status between someone driving a 750i vs. 750Li.

LexFather

i think from a German standpoint, a lot of it has to do with status. I mean honestly, I never see any LWB or SWB car of this status full with people, 90% its the driver only. Its status.

The LWB also will probably have higher resale and they only weigh maybe 50-100lbs more than the SWB.

Even in reviews of the SWB 745 and 760, they are only very very slightly sportier than the LWB, still too much heft.

I think the LS 430 was roomy enough in the back as it was. The LS 460 is already longer and the LS 460 L should have tons of room.

Finally, pricing could be a consideration and we don't know that yet.

4TehNguyen

iTrader: (1)

vehicles with longer wheelbase wont handle as well and they have a larger turning radius as a car with a shorter wheelbase

rominl

iTrader: (4)

to me it's about the extra space for rear passengers and also the luxury factor to have a big car to stand against the other competitors

for sure i won't be the one enjoying it...

Gojirra99

Lexus also may not offer some options you want in the SWB version besides the RSES & 4 seat configuration. There may not be an "ultra lux" LS460 SWB, we'll have to wait & see.

A LWB version does not necessarily handles worse than the SWB version if the car is designed to have LWB in mind right from the beginning.
From the reviews of the Jaguar XJ, they didn't seem to find any noticeable difference in handling/ performance between the long & short versions for example.

RA40

iTrader: (6)

For us a LWB would mean more packages of Costco size items. Geeze...yesterday, we had six cases of Kirkland water in the trunk and a bunch of other Costco sized stuff in the back seat space.

Something about that long back window is sexy.

PhilipMSPT

iTrader: (5)

It may not be the case for the trunk. The SWB and LWB may have the same trunk space. The extra inches are for the passenger cabin.

Also, if you get the LS600hL, the batteries may end up in the trunk like that of the GS450h, making trunk space very limited compared to the 460L.

RA40

iTrader: (6)

Exaclty...anything that doesn't fit in the trunk goes inside. I'm glad they put the gas tank on the bottom of the car again. Putting it behind the backseat like the earlier generation Lexus cars killed 3-4 cubic feet of space.

I don't remember, does the 460 have a pass through compartment or fold down rear seat?

PhilipMSPT

iTrader: (5)

It's a pass-through compartment. Having fold down seats compromises the design/ergonomics/comfort of the seats, so passenger comfort supercede trunk space.

Lexs400

LWB and SWB is basically a wannabe mercedes thing. nothing more nothing less. !

rominl

iTrader: (4)

lol, this past weekend my wife and i went to costco and got crap load of stuff -- all packed into my sc430..... the ONLY stuff we allowed inside the cabin was the napkins and paper towels. everything else? you gotta be kidding me

that's why i will need to get a van too if i wanna get this car, hehe

RA40

iTrader: (6)

A Lexus station wagon!

So they have a small sport sedan-IS
mid-sized and mid-sport sedan-ES & GS
luxo barge-LS
convert-SC
SUV's-RX, GX & LX

som-thin's missing...

sport coupe-blah-blah Supra...
station wagon like this Nissan Axis

Faheta

Rationalization and luxury sounds like an oxymoron to me. Folks who buy luxury cars are not into the "good enough". Luxury is about "excess".

I think you'd actually have to sit in one to say "damn I want this!" The extra 5 inches draws the line between "I'm sitting in the back" and "I have a chauffeur"