First Year Model Introduction Concerns
#16
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I understand some the concern of first year cars, but I also think its the price you pay if you want the newest kid on the block. And thank goodness, its small issues, never large issues for the 1st year.
I don't know why there is this growing perception from people that Lexus have NO problems. They do, like other cars but the least amount and the dealer actually gives a crap about it.
They do/will have problems. Lexus is not a perfect built machine.
I don't know why there is this growing perception from people that Lexus have NO problems. They do, like other cars but the least amount and the dealer actually gives a crap about it.
They do/will have problems. Lexus is not a perfect built machine.
#17
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Lexus may be the most reliable brand for both short and long term ownership experiences, BUT that doesn't exclude them from the rule of thumb that the first year for any model, ESPECIALLY a model that's using new untested technology (think about it... by the time a given feature makes it to cars selling for half the price, it has already been tested for several years in high end cars and the kinks worked out), it's going to be less reliable than if you waited a year or two.
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I understand some the concern of first year cars, but I also think its the price you pay if you want the newest kid on the block. And thank goodness, its small issues, never large issues for the 1st year.
I don't know why there is this growing perception from people that Lexus have NO problems. They do, like other cars but the least amount and the dealer actually gives a crap about it.
They do/will have problems. Lexus is not a perfect built machine.
I don't know why there is this growing perception from people that Lexus have NO problems. They do, like other cars but the least amount and the dealer actually gives a crap about it.
They do/will have problems. Lexus is not a perfect built machine.
#19
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Originally Posted by rominl
oh i can always "WANT" and "WISH", but reality is with what's going on, not sure if i can even get the ls460
Yeah, the LS600H is very enticing, but if it stickers at over $100k...yikes So many fun choices at that price range.
#20
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I understand some the concern of first year cars, but I also think its the price you pay if you want the newest kid on the block. And thank goodness, its small issues, never large issues for the 1st year.
I don't know why there is this growing perception from people that Lexus have NO problems. They do, like other cars but the least amount and the dealer actually gives a crap about it.
They do/will have problems. Lexus is not a perfect built machine.
I don't know why there is this growing perception from people that Lexus have NO problems. They do, like other cars but the least amount and the dealer actually gives a crap about it.
They do/will have problems. Lexus is not a perfect built machine.
#21
Here's the most recent J.D. Power IQS ratings for 2005. Based on the postings in this thread, some of you may be suprised.
http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story....r=&aff=detnews
http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story....r=&aff=detnews
Brand Problems per 100 Vehicles
Lexus 81
Jaguar 88
BMW 95
Buick 100
Cadillac 104
Mercedes-Benz 104
Toyota 105
Audi 106
Infiniti 109
Hummer 110
Hyundai 110
Honda 112
GMC 113
Lincoln 113
Acura 116
Industry Average 118
Jeep 120
Mercury 120
Nissan 120
Chrysler 121
Chevrolet 127
Ford 127
Mitsubishi 129
Pontiac 129
Dodge 130
Mini 130
Scion 134
Saab 136
Saturn 136
Subaru 138
Kia 140
Volvo 140
Porsche 147
Volkswagen 147
Land Rover 149
Mazda 149
Suzuki 151
Lexus 81
Jaguar 88
BMW 95
Buick 100
Cadillac 104
Mercedes-Benz 104
Toyota 105
Audi 106
Infiniti 109
Hummer 110
Hyundai 110
Honda 112
GMC 113
Lincoln 113
Acura 116
Industry Average 118
Jeep 120
Mercury 120
Nissan 120
Chrysler 121
Chevrolet 127
Ford 127
Mitsubishi 129
Pontiac 129
Dodge 130
Mini 130
Scion 134
Saab 136
Saturn 136
Subaru 138
Kia 140
Volvo 140
Porsche 147
Volkswagen 147
Land Rover 149
Mazda 149
Suzuki 151
#22
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Originally Posted by jwa
Here's the most recent J.D. Power IQS ratings for 2005. Based on the postings in this thread, some of you may be suprised.
http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story....r=&aff=detnews
http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story....r=&aff=detnews
VDS is much more revealing IMO than IQS. VDS is a measure of 3 years of ownership. IQS is a measure of 3 months of ownership.
#23
Originally Posted by rominl
You have to admit though, by comparing to other brands, Lexus is too perfect on problems I guess it has to do with people switching from other brands, so to them Lexus cars really don't have any problems.
My last three Mercedes, Town Cars and Cadillacs .. ALL THREE had JUNK window mechanisms .. that cost $600 every time you have to replace one! VERY disgusting. One window unit on my current DHS has been replaced THREE times! The other three have been replaced AT LEAST once!
Has Lexus had any bad run on window mechanisms?
Big Jimm
So. Fla.
Last edited by Big Jimm; 05-09-06 at 04:44 PM.
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Originally Posted by INHOCJP
No backing out now Henry, we're going to do a group buy
Yeah, the LS600H is very enticing, but if it stickers at over $100k...yikes So many fun choices at that price range.
Yeah, the LS600H is very enticing, but if it stickers at over $100k...yikes So many fun choices at that price range.
Originally Posted by Big Jimm
Good point, Rominl.
My last three Mercedes, Town Cars and Cadillacs .. ALL THREE had JUNK window mechanisms .. that cost $600 every time you have to replace one! VERY disgusting. One window unit on my current DHS has been replaced THREE times! The other three have been replaced AT LEAST once!
Has Lexus had any bad run on window mechanisms?
Big Jimm
So. Fla.
My last three Mercedes, Town Cars and Cadillacs .. ALL THREE had JUNK window mechanisms .. that cost $600 every time you have to replace one! VERY disgusting. One window unit on my current DHS has been replaced THREE times! The other three have been replaced AT LEAST once!
Has Lexus had any bad run on window mechanisms?
Big Jimm
So. Fla.
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OP here, on a bit of a side note, some manufacturers are extending their lease terms because of the crisis, if you so wish. I am now leasing a Toyota, they have not announced that but if they do I might take the offer and it gives me more time to search.
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Getting first year vehicle always opens up possibility of more issues than one that’s been out on the road for couple years so the dealer can fix the issues and gripes that consumers have. That said, it is likely that some carmakers more than others have higher probability of issues compared to others. Toyota/Lexus usually on the lower risk scale due to build quality and higher historical reliability. It is always nice to be driving the newest model out on the road.
#29
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Tons of problems on a 04 LS? That’s not common. However, I did hear that the upgrade in trans was a bit faulty for that year. But you may have just got a 🍋. I had a 05, it was one of the most reliable vehicles I’ve had.
Getting first year vehicle always opens up possibility of more issues than one that’s been out on the road for couple years so the dealer can fix the issues and gripes that consumers have. That said, it is likely that some carmakers more than others have higher probability of issues compared to others. Toyota/Lexus usually on the lower risk scale due to build quality and higher historical reliability. It is always nice to be driving the newest model out on the road.
Getting first year vehicle always opens up possibility of more issues than one that’s been out on the road for couple years so the dealer can fix the issues and gripes that consumers have. That said, it is likely that some carmakers more than others have higher probability of issues compared to others. Toyota/Lexus usually on the lower risk scale due to build quality and higher historical reliability. It is always nice to be driving the newest model out on the road.
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