AlphaBravo

Hey fellas & fellettes, just joined.

2003 Lexus LS430

Both the driver side's front and rear windows have some sort of condensation appearing "inside" the window. It's neither on the outside of the window nor inside. Located pretty much center of the window at the bottom where the window meets the door. Radius approx. 6" (half circle since the other half disappears into the door).

Another description would be how you hold a lighter close to plastic and watch it shrivel up. That's what it looks like and then mist/condensation-like surroundings. Any ideas what this could be? The driver side window is also super slow to go down, in case that has anything to do with this.

Tom57

You need to grease the window seals with Shun-Etsu to make them roll smooth again. See these threads:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls4...down-only.html

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls4...shin-etsu.html

Post a picture of the window condensation.

Gene01

In advance of the pictures, I will make a guess that it is delamination since the car is a CL.
Does the glass have the word "LAMISAFE" in the data block? (It should.)
This is a known (but not too common) problem.

AlphaBravo

Thanks for the replies. I will post pics as soon as the weather clears up.

Lamisafe is a good guess since my first impression was that something plastic inside shriveled up. I'll check the label on the window (if any).

I have a few issues I'm hoping I can either handle on my own with the help of the forum or have it repaired without getting ripped off at the stealership.

- Check Cruise System light (cruise control not working)
- Check Parking Sensor light (when activated the front of the car in the image blinks) - not sure how to locate which sensor is out
- Taillamp Failure light
- VSC light

Tom57

First, retrieve all fault codes with OBD II code reader.
Tail lamp failure is simply a bulb or two in the tail.
Is your vehicle a Custom Luxury with laser cruise?

AlphaBravo

That's right, it is the Custom Luxury Package.

AlphaBravo

I read up a little on the lamisafe/laminate windows the CL comes with and can pretty much confirm this is the issue I'm experiencing with the two windows.

I called Lexus dealer and the quote I received was $815 for the front driver side window and $800 for the rear driver side. That's INSANE!

Can anyone recommend an alternate place to purchase from at significantly lower prices?

(I called local Lexus Sdealer, I'm in Toronto, Canada).

Tom57

Search and contact auto recyclers and auto glass repair shops for quotes. (Were the quotes for the glass windows only, or is that glass and installation?) If you're a DIY'er, consider installing yourself. Also, check with your insurance to see if perhaps it's covered under comprehensive. You could also consider the non-laminate window as replacements - less expensive.

AlphaBravo

Fabulous, thanks. That's for the part only
Tom, will the non-laminate replacement fit just as good? Will there be a noticeable difference in exterior noise entering the cabin?

AlphaBravo

Found a site online that sells wholesale OEM Lexus parts. I'm looking at new replacements for both windows for approx. $500 for both.

Does anyone have any experience with this company? http://www.oemlexusparts.com/

Also, he searched according to my VIN #, so I am assuming it's safe to say the windows will therefore be lamisafe/laminate as my current original windows are?

xtr3me

01-06 ... same glass front and rear

Get him to work with you on the price... See if he will match the price on the drivers door from this Ebay posting

Drivers glass - $199
http://www.ebay.com/itm/01-03-LEXUS-...-/310542170488

Of course shipping costs are expensive to Canada.. looks as if you may have found a good deal depending on shipping charges..

Tom57

Register with Sewell Lexus and get a discounted quote from them as well. They are a CL sponsor.
Use your CL name to register with Sewell Parts: http://lexus.sewellparts.com/

I would not assume the quote is for laminated windows, ask.

AlphaBravo

Much appreciated Xtreme. Do you know whether it's laminate though? I'll set up an ebay account tonight to contact him.

Tom57

I don't know if there is / will be a color or sound difference between the two windows. Both types will fit for your model year.

xtr3me

I can't make out the markings on the Ebay image on the computer I'm currently on.. Look for markings such as
AS1 - laminated
AS2 - tempered