New member, pre-purchase questions
#1
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New member, pre-purchase questions
In the next couple of months I will probably picking up a friend of mine's 2004 LS 430. He is going to let me have it for the trade in the dealer is going to offer to him. I haven't gone through all of the details about the car other than I know he is the original owner and said it's had all of the maintenance done by a Lexus dealer. Right now I don't know all of what's been replaced though.
Here is the info I know about the car:
~110k miles
Has navigation.
Owner says there is a slight musty smell from the A/C when first started.
Is there anything I need to be on the look out for? Ex: spark plugs should have been changed @ 100k or the timing chain needs changing soon?
I'm curious if any '04 LS would have come with Bluetooth for hands free calling. I thought I saw where someone mentioned their '04 did but my friend said he didn't think his had Bluetooth.
Owner says the drivetrain has been perfect and should be fine for a while but I was curious about how long it should last. My plan is to drive the car for about 4 yrs until my son turns 17 or so and this might be his first car. I'm curious if the car should last that long (assuming about 12k miles a year).
Is there things like shocks or starters or struts or something similar that I should plan on replacing soon with the car having that many miles and being 10 yrs old?
Here is the info I know about the car:
~110k miles
Has navigation.
Owner says there is a slight musty smell from the A/C when first started.
Is there anything I need to be on the look out for? Ex: spark plugs should have been changed @ 100k or the timing chain needs changing soon?
I'm curious if any '04 LS would have come with Bluetooth for hands free calling. I thought I saw where someone mentioned their '04 did but my friend said he didn't think his had Bluetooth.
Owner says the drivetrain has been perfect and should be fine for a while but I was curious about how long it should last. My plan is to drive the car for about 4 yrs until my son turns 17 or so and this might be his first car. I'm curious if the car should last that long (assuming about 12k miles a year).
Is there things like shocks or starters or struts or something similar that I should plan on replacing soon with the car having that many miles and being 10 yrs old?
Last edited by caverman; 12-22-14 at 05:37 PM. Reason: descriptive title
#2
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First, congratulations on the car before hand. Hope you enjoy it.
You should know that 110k miles on an LS430, doesn't necessary mean that number on this specific car and most Lexus cars. Our cars were built to last and require less maintenance than you think.
Personally I would probably flip the whole car upside down doing new parts to it. But sticking to a budget, I will only look to the parts that need more attention, like the worn seat you mentioned.
Sewell parts is your friend. You will get a very very good discount if you register using your CL name here.
I suggest getting their 120k miles maintenance kit.
It costs you $125. Has the following components, and you will find a lot of the installation instructions here on the forum DIY.
General maintenance items are those day-to-day care practices that are important to your vehicle for proper operation and include the following items:
Oil Filter and Drain Plug Gasket
Air Filter
In-Cabin Microfilter
Brake Fluid
Spark Plugs
Welcome to the forum man.
You should know that 110k miles on an LS430, doesn't necessary mean that number on this specific car and most Lexus cars. Our cars were built to last and require less maintenance than you think.
Personally I would probably flip the whole car upside down doing new parts to it. But sticking to a budget, I will only look to the parts that need more attention, like the worn seat you mentioned.
Sewell parts is your friend. You will get a very very good discount if you register using your CL name here.
I suggest getting their 120k miles maintenance kit.
It costs you $125. Has the following components, and you will find a lot of the installation instructions here on the forum DIY.
General maintenance items are those day-to-day care practices that are important to your vehicle for proper operation and include the following items:
Oil Filter and Drain Plug Gasket
Air Filter
In-Cabin Microfilter
Brake Fluid
Spark Plugs
Welcome to the forum man.
#3
trade in between 9,000- 11,000. examples both incorrect spark plugs @120,000 and timing belt at 90,000 but some go much longer only change due to total destruction possible. Texas is large musty smell would concern me in Houston or Corpus Christi..not so much in west transmission requires no maintenance if it has no dip stick. check this immediately. if timing belt done $10,000 would be good (great) deal.
#4
where are you in Texas? If your friend is ok with it, get a PPI, it's well worth the money and you know how well it has been maintained. If you are in Austin, Bearden Automotive is excellent and both he and their lead tech used to work at Lexus of Austin. They specialize in Toyota and Lexus. In fact, the current Lexus techs continue to call Bearden because he is so good.
Here is good read www.toyoland.com/lexus/ls430.html This will get you familiar with the vehicle.
Do the timing belt ASAP, it's 20k over already. Spark plugs will be needed too. For me, when I got mine, I expected to put about $1500 or so into the vehicle to bring it up to where I wanted it. If it has Nav, then you have bluetooth from what I have read.
I just bought the Strongarm struts and will install them today. Both the front and rears can be had for under $100. Not OEM, but this part really doesn't need to be.
As far as a seat, I would replace the seat bottom pad. I am going to do this too. If the leather is starting to deteriorate, it's more than likely caused from poor support, so budget that in.
HTH, it's a great vehicle.
Here is good read www.toyoland.com/lexus/ls430.html This will get you familiar with the vehicle.
Do the timing belt ASAP, it's 20k over already. Spark plugs will be needed too. For me, when I got mine, I expected to put about $1500 or so into the vehicle to bring it up to where I wanted it. If it has Nav, then you have bluetooth from what I have read.
I just bought the Strongarm struts and will install them today. Both the front and rears can be had for under $100. Not OEM, but this part really doesn't need to be.
As far as a seat, I would replace the seat bottom pad. I am going to do this too. If the leather is starting to deteriorate, it's more than likely caused from poor support, so budget that in.
HTH, it's a great vehicle.
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Thanks for the help guys. Keep on with any other suggestions.
So, you're saying that the timing belt should have been replaced at the 90k mark? I'll have to check with him to see if it was replaced or not. I would assume that if he was taking it to the Lexus dealer they would have suggested to replace the belt around that time. I'll have to check on the spark plugs as well.
My buddy ordered a Tesla and it's supposed to be in sometime in February. So, I wanted to get all my info together so I know what I'm getting myself into when I get the car.
BTW: to answer the other questions, I am in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.
So, you're saying that the timing belt should have been replaced at the 90k mark? I'll have to check with him to see if it was replaced or not. I would assume that if he was taking it to the Lexus dealer they would have suggested to replace the belt around that time. I'll have to check on the spark plugs as well.
My buddy ordered a Tesla and it's supposed to be in sometime in February. So, I wanted to get all my info together so I know what I'm getting myself into when I get the car.
BTW: to answer the other questions, I am in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.
Last edited by caverman; 12-22-14 at 05:28 PM.
#6
Also, I forgot to say, you can go to https://secure.drivers.lexus.com, sign up and enter the VIN to get all records done at Lexus. This is a great resource for checking the history, but it isn't all-inclusive, esp if indy shops were used.
If the TB has been done, there should be a sticker on the front in the engine bay stating as such. Sounds like a great price too! But even if the TB wasn't I still think it would be a good price.
For the plugs, make sure you use only Denso Iridiums, others don't play nicely. These are a 100K plug.
If the TB has been done, there should be a sticker on the front in the engine bay stating as such. Sounds like a great price too! But even if the TB wasn't I still think it would be a good price.
For the plugs, make sure you use only Denso Iridiums, others don't play nicely. These are a 100K plug.
#7
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My main concern would be the timing belt , if its not done it MUST be done soon, or your risking your entire engine.
I repair leather as a side hobby and there are many people that do it, they can fix the rip and redye that section (or the entire seat) and it will be as good as new .....relatively speaking lol
I wouldn't worry about small stuff u can fix them as u please, its probably the most reliable well built , long lasting vehicle ever made and at 10 K seems like a good price.
I repair leather as a side hobby and there are many people that do it, they can fix the rip and redye that section (or the entire seat) and it will be as good as new .....relatively speaking lol
I wouldn't worry about small stuff u can fix them as u please, its probably the most reliable well built , long lasting vehicle ever made and at 10 K seems like a good price.
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I finally got the VIN from my friend and was able to use the link posted above to look up the service records. Looks like the Timing Belt and Water Pump were replaced at 84k which was about 3.5 yrs ago. That's why he probably didn't remember about the large dealership bill.
The only negative news I received with the VIN number is that his new car has been delayed longer. I now have to wait another two months to get the car.
I finally got the VIN from my friend and was able to use the link posted above to look up the service records. Looks like the Timing Belt and Water Pump were replaced at 84k which was about 3.5 yrs ago. That's why he probably didn't remember about the large dealership bill.
The only negative news I received with the VIN number is that his new car has been delayed longer. I now have to wait another two months to get the car.
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Question???? I was looking around some on the forum and saw where the air suspension could be an issue if the car comes with it. I have the VIN number and put it into the Lexus site to get the service history however I didn't see anywhere on how I might be able to tell if it has the air suspension.
Anyone have a suggestion on how I can determine that?
Anyone have a suggestion on how I can determine that?
#14
Are you buying this car from a friend or an enemy? Don't play this "friend" tag line - it's obvious that you cannot even communicate with this friend and ask simple questions.
Email customer service from the Lexus site and ask for the build sheet. That will tell you straight away what options are equipped on the car.
Email customer service from the Lexus site and ask for the build sheet. That will tell you straight away what options are equipped on the car.
#15
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Are you buying this car from a friend or an enemy? Don't play this "friend" tag line - it's obvious that you cannot even communicate with this friend and ask simple questions.
Email customer service from the Lexus site and ask for the build sheet. That will tell you straight away what options are equipped on the car.
Email customer service from the Lexus site and ask for the build sheet. That will tell you straight away what options are equipped on the car.
I'm mostly trying to do research while I'm waiting for the car. I see that the air suspension can be an issue. From my understanding the air suspension only came one the Ultra Luxury model so I'm trying to determine if his is a UL. I can almost guarantee if I asked him if his car was a UL he would have no clue. So, I'm wondering if I could determine that from the VIN.