Bye bye 460L. Back to the 430.
12-22-13, 03:51 PM
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My fav body style and timeless look is the 2004-2006 LS430, unfortunately they are much more expensive to find even with high miles then what i paid for my 01. Its ok, ill live with it.
12-22-13, 03:59 PM
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Hi 'Bob04',
I don't know too much about the LS460, but I'm surprised Lexus would build as rough an engine as yours appeared to have had. Also, those sleek lines must be deceiving due to the wind noise that you mention.
Anyway, I'm very glad you feel better now (mine's a LS430 too). However, I wonder what made you trade-in your previous LS430 and upgrade to the LS460? I mean, what were you unhappy with then and hoping to improve on?
I don't know too much about the LS460, but I'm surprised Lexus would build as rough an engine as yours appeared to have had. Also, those sleek lines must be deceiving due to the wind noise that you mention.
Anyway, I'm very glad you feel better now (mine's a LS430 too). However, I wonder what made you trade-in your previous LS430 and upgrade to the LS460? I mean, what were you unhappy with then and hoping to improve on?
So, I decided to ditch it and find a lower mileage 430 with those features. I already had the Vaistech MML for my old car, so I just installed it and now I have everything that I really wanted. Wish I would have just done that the begin with instead of going the 460 route, but you live and you learn. I actually considered getting a new 460. Very glad I didn't do that. Maybe I wouldn't have had the problem, or maybe I would have, but I would have lost by *** getting out of it if I didn't like it.
12-22-13, 04:03 PM
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I don't see that much different between the two. 99% of the population wouldn't be able to notice any difference. 01-03 LS430s are probably the best bargain on the user luxury car market today.
12-22-13, 04:05 PM
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Good luck with it. I intentionally stayed away from the air suspension cars. I've driven both and honestly can't tell much different. I do love the rest of the UL features though. Definitely the best of the 430s.
12-22-13, 04:10 PM
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Its the little things, like 6 speed AT, newer AFS projector headlamps, led tails, revised ML audio and bluetooth, etc. But you hit the nail right on the head as far as bargain goes, 01-03 do come up way cheaper.
12-22-13, 04:26 PM
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Hey that car I was going to buy has a reported accident on the carfax. I called the seller, and he explained that its a mistake. According to him, he originally bought a 2004 ls430 (new) and shortly thereafter got into an accident. He then traded in the 2004 for a new 2005 (the current car). Somehow the accident showed up on the new car's carfax.
He offered to take it to a Lexus dealership so that the service department can inspect it and confirm that the car has never been in an accident.
What should I do?
He offered to take it to a Lexus dealership so that the service department can inspect it and confirm that the car has never been in an accident.
What should I do?
12-22-13, 04:29 PM
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Hey that car I was going to buy has a reported accident on the carfax. I called the seller, and he explained that its a mistake. According to him, he originally bought a 2004 ls430 (new) and shortly thereafter got into an accident. He then traded in the 2004 for a new 2005 (the current car). Somehow the accident showed up on the new car's carfax.
He offered to take it to a Lexus dealership so that the service department can inspect it and confirm that the car has never been in an accident.
What should I do?
He offered to take it to a Lexus dealership so that the service department can inspect it and confirm that the car has never been in an accident.
What should I do?
12-22-13, 04:48 PM
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Hey that car I was going to buy has a reported accident on the carfax. I called the seller, and he explained that its a mistake. According to him, he originally bought a 2004 ls430 (new) and shortly thereafter got into an accident. He then traded in the 2004 for a new 2005 (the current car). Somehow the accident showed up on the new car's carfax.
He offered to take it to a Lexus dealership so that the service department can inspect it and confirm that the car has never been in an accident.
What should I do?
He offered to take it to a Lexus dealership so that the service department can inspect it and confirm that the car has never been in an accident.
What should I do?
12-22-13, 04:51 PM
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Welcome back Bob, I am more then happy with my LS430, the LS460 definitely have much lower quality. Most people suffer the "newer must be better" syndrome, that is true most of the time, but there are always exception to every rule.
I just hope the next 5LS will be back to the quality of the LS430, because my LS430 sure won't last forever and clean low mileage LS430 is getting rarer over time.
I just hope the next 5LS will be back to the quality of the LS430, because my LS430 sure won't last forever and clean low mileage LS430 is getting rarer over time.
12-23-13, 04:40 AM
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Hey that car I was going to buy has a reported accident on the carfax. I called the seller, and he explained that its a mistake. According to him, he originally bought a 2004 ls430 (new) and shortly thereafter got into an accident. He then traded in the 2004 for a new 2005 (the current car). Somehow the accident showed up on the new car's carfax.
He offered to take it to a Lexus dealership so that the service department can inspect it and confirm that the car has never been in an accident.
What should I do?
He offered to take it to a Lexus dealership so that the service department can inspect it and confirm that the car has never been in an accident.
What should I do?
12-23-13, 11:44 AM
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Back to the 430
Finally had enough. Enough being in the shop. Enough ticking like a freaking 80's Mercedes diesel. Enough of the road and wind noise. Hated, hated, hated that car. With a passion. Fortunately it was still under warranty so the repairs were covered, but still a pain in the ***. .....
12-23-13, 01:10 PM
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Trade-In, Private Party, Dealer Retail,
$11,820 $13,307 $15,604
Use the internet to find average wholesale/Trade in value on any car you are interested in and then offer the dealer or seller about $1-2k more (max) depending on condition.
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