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Old 07-07-11, 07:11 AM
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Hi all,

What are the key differences, if any, among various LS430 models, specifically 2002 model vs newer years (2003 up to 2006)? I'm contemplating buying a 2002 LS430, only 50K miles, in good condition, asking price $15K. Is it a good buy? Appreciate a quick response today.

Comparing LS430 with LS460, is it worthwhile to spend that much more money for the LS460?

Thanks,
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2003+ = AFS, PCS, radar or laser cruise control, voice commands, bluetooth, phone, tire pressure monitor, new 6-speed tranny.
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Welcome. The best source of info on years and options is the link in the FAQ thread leading to the sales brochures for each model year.

Basically, 2001-2003 LS430s were all very similar. 2004-2006 LS430s were essentially identical. All LS430s tend to have very solid quality aside from problems I've heard mentioned most frequently here: the air suspension on UL models; mirror & steering column adjustment motors / switches in all models; and blown subwoofers.

2007-later LS460s were a different beast, with a number of quality problems popping up in 2007. I looked at both the LS430 and LS460 and decided on the LS430.
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Originally Posted by caddyowner
Welcome. The best source of info on years and options is the link in the FAQ thread leading to the sales brochures for each model year.

Basically, 2001-2003 LS430s were all very similar. 2004-2006 LS430s were essentially identical. All LS430s tend to have very solid quality aside from problems I've heard mentioned most frequently here: the air suspension on UL models; mirror & steering column adjustment motors / switches in all models; and blown subwoofers.

2007-later LS460s were a different beast, with a number of quality problems popping up in 2007. I looked at both the LS430 and LS460 and decided on the LS430.
TRUE likewise here I took one look at the LS 460 and put on my running shoes and went out and got the 430, there is something about the LS460 exterior looks that just isnt right,cant seem to place it, its just not appealing as the 430 VIP stance

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Originally Posted by ROADSOFA
... there is something about the LS460 exterior looks that just isnt right,cant seem to place it, its just not too appealing as the 430 VIP stance
It's the BIG Camry look of the LS460. It doesn't have any distinctive look or design to it. And now with the 2010 refresh, and the Sport edition, it has an even BIGGER CAMRY look to it.

A 430 I can spot from two blocks away on a cloudy day, from the back or front. A 460 it has to be within six or seven cars lengths and it has to be back view. The front is just so generic and non distinctive.
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Originally Posted by Lynzoid
2003+ = AFS, PCS, radar or laser cruise control, voice commands, bluetooth, phone, tire pressure monitor, new 6-speed tranny.
Actually, you're wrong about a couple things. Our '02 LS430 has the radar cruise control and bluetooth. I'm pretty sure radar cruise control was available when the LS430 came out in '01.
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Originally Posted by AlexusAnja
It's the BIG Camry look of the LS460. It doesn't have any distinctive look or design to it. And now with the 2010 refresh, and the Sport edition, it has an even BIGGER CAMRY look to it.

A 430 I can spot from two blocks away on a cloudy day, from the back or front. A 460 it has to be within six or seven cars lengths and it has to be back view. The front is just so generic and non distinctive.
AA you hit the nail right on the head its true it really looks like a big camry on the outside, the inside looks great which to me is just a revised Ls 430 interior but the design team at Lexus needs to work on the BIG CAMRY exterior for sure
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I'm never sure if I'm looking at an LS460 or ES350 unless I get up close. That's not a good sign considering the price difference.
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Originally Posted by speedrobzy
Hi all,

What are the key differences, if any, among various LS430 models, specifically 2002 model vs newer years (2003 up to 2006)? I'm contemplating buying a 2002 LS430, only 50K miles, in good condition, asking price $15K. Is it a good buy? Appreciate a quick response today.

Comparing LS430 with LS460, is it worthwhile to spend that much more money for the LS460?

Thanks,
Mike
We have an 03 LS430 with nav / ML sound with 58K miles in excellent to mint condition. We paid 20K for it 2 1/2 years ago with 38K miles in it. I would not sell mine for 15K. Kelly shows the used value around 19 - 22K. So if your prospect car is in very good condition with DOCUMENTED service records - 15K is probably a very good price.

Do keep in mind that the 60K service is expensive - know that going in.
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Originally Posted by LS430Man
Actually, you're wrong about a couple things. Our '02 LS430 has the radar cruise control and bluetooth. I'm pretty sure radar cruise control was available when the LS430 came out in '01.
I guess you're right about 02+, but definitely no distance cruise on 01s.
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i have radar cruise on my 01
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Originally Posted by LS430Man
Actually, you're wrong about a couple things. Our '02 LS430 has the radar cruise control and bluetooth. I'm pretty sure radar cruise control was available when the LS430 came out in '01.

I have an 03, no bluetooth as far as I can find
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Originally Posted by ROADSOFA
TRUE likewise here I took one look at the LS 460 and put on my running shoes and went out and got the 430, there is something about the LS460 exterior looks that just isnt right,cant seem to place it, its just not appealing as the 430 VIP stance
the window height to body height ratio is off, on the ls430 if you look at it from a profile the side window is a good height, closer to the height of the rest of the door from the belt moulding, on the 460s there is more body and less window, that is what ruins it for me.
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Originally Posted by pacinitaly
I have an 03, no bluetooth as far as I can find
Do you have the NAV? Bluetooth only came with NAV, and I'm pretty sure it didn't come until 2004 (MY) so not sure on the 2002 if someone retro fit the newer NAV in, or there's some aftermarket BT.
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guys, also pay attention that different countries have different packages...

Like my '01 has smart access & laser cruise...but yet again, I think here we are getting LS from either Singapore/UK/Australia market (not too sure which one of those)...


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