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Old 04-06-12, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by caddyowner
I was looking at a new 460 at the dealership yesterday. Very nice, but the new GS better fits my current needs and desires.
That means you are feeling young! Good for you

I always feels sad that I don't want anything sporty anymore, I feel like an old man, people make fun of me everyday But I can't change my feelings.

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Old 04-06-12, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Slvr surfr
Thank guys for throwing water on my future LS460's fire. lol. Theyre just so sleek tho.
Other then the few modern features and updates...............heated steering wheel, power side shades, power trunk lid, there is nothing I like more on the 460 then my 430. I am hoping the next gen LS500 will be a slam dunk like the new ES350. Cause I am skipping the 460 for sure.
Old 04-06-12, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BNR34
Other then the few modern features and updates...............heated steering wheel, power side shades, power trunk lid, there is nothing I like more on the 460 then my 430. I am hoping the next gen LS500 will be a slam dunk like the new ES350. Cause I am skipping the 460 for sure.
True! I guess i will have to test drive one to actually make an opinion. Hearing a lot about it not feeling the same as past LS models. Im sure Lexus knew that but the soft, floaty, old Lincoln-like ride is one of the things that made me fall in love with the original LS up until now. I hope they get back to that because if not im not sure how long i can be an LS man without its original characteristics.
Old 04-06-12, 08:48 PM
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I agree with those who prefer the 430 over the 460. I could afford either one but I chose the 430. After my mother in law bought a 460 my choice was confirmed as the right one for me. Hoping the next LS will fulfill my expectations because I am in the same camp as Slvr Surfer... As much as I love my 430, one day it will eventually have to be replaced.
Old 04-06-12, 08:51 PM
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I loved my 430 but the looks of the 460 won.
Old 04-06-12, 09:00 PM
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We were out in Phoenix last week for some vacation - we rented a 2012 Avalon Limited for the week - almost brand new, had 1,100 miles on it. Averaged 24.6mpg. It was a really nice car. Extremely comfortable seats. I especially liked the back up camera screen embedded in the rear view mirror- excellent design. Given the cost differential I might get 1 year old Avalon instead of a 07-08 LS460 if I suddenly had to replace my LS430.
Old 04-06-12, 09:10 PM
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The interior room in the 460 is smaller. The 430 was more spacious and in my opinion classier looking. The 460 does have some great features such as heated steering wheel, power side shades etc, however, it does not ride as nice as the 430.

I would give up the shades and power lid to have the 430 ride back
Old 04-07-12, 12:57 AM
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I'm very glad to see this thread as I'm considering changing my LS430 for a 460.

I have a car service business here in the UK and my feeling was that the 430 is more suitable as it looks more the part; I'm glad to hear that it's also roomier.

My wife wants a 460 saying that the 430 is "an old man's car" and she likes the 460's sportier looks.

I think my mind is made up - very tempted by the extra 100bhp but considering I cruise around with very gentle throttle openings at 1500rpm most of the time I guess that's silly.
Old 04-07-12, 05:43 AM
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old mans car, possibly, but to me its just a luxury ride pure and simple.

can you all think of any new cars that are actually aiming for the luxury ride as their target objective? other than that new big cadillac sts/dts and the merc S (even this is kinda sporty now) class i really can't think of one that is still keeping the luxury ride on the top of their agenda. most all of them to me seem to be going the sporty handling route... i think it all started when infiniti took away the Q and made the M (V8) their flagship. then jag followed and even cadillac with their new smaller sportier sedans.

i just want a big luxo boat to cruise around in, i know i can't be the only one¿
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Originally Posted by Floutier
I think my mind is made up - very tempted by the extra 100bhp but considering I cruise around with very gentle throttle openings at 1500rpm most of the time I guess that's silly.
Don't forget the 460 in general is roughly 500 lbs heavier, so effectively the 460 is only 50 hp faster. Look at the acceleration times of both, the 460 is barely quicker. The bigger difference is the 460 is a little more responsive due to the 8-speed tranny. My real world test drive feeling is the same, I can barely tell the 460 is any quicker.

Performance wise, the difference between the 2 is very negligible. And like you said, most people don't speed in a LS.

I think at the end, is all about which looks you prefer more. The modern updated sporty sleek look, or the old stately proper full size sedan look.
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Originally Posted by kg19989
I agree with those who prefer the 430 over the 460. I could afford either one but I chose the 430.
Yes 06' LS430 is the same price as 07' LS460 on the market. In some ways the 06' 430 worth more then the 07' 460 because the last year 430 have way less issue then the 1st year 460.
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I was at the local Lexus dealership test driving an 06 LS430 and the salesman said many people preferred the ride quality of the LS430 over LS460. I haven't driven an LS460 before, but the LS430 has the smoothest ride I've ever felt.
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Originally Posted by Kira X
I was at the local Lexus dealership test driving an 06 LS430 and the salesman said many people preferred the ride quality of the LS430 over LS460. I haven't driven an LS460 before, but the LS430 has the smoothest ride I've ever felt.
I have yet to find a car that ride smoother then a LS430, and I have been in some pretty high level cars..........Bentley Arnage, Continental Flying Spur, S-Class, 7 Series.........etc.

I begin to think it is not humanly possible to have a smoother ride.
Old 04-08-12, 02:15 PM
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i remember when i was a valet 10 years ago that some old jags had a pretty smooth ride and 1 particular really old rolls royce but unfortunately i never got either of these up to highway speeds
Old 04-09-12, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sojah
old mans car, possibly, but to me its just a luxury ride pure and simple.
WORD!!!!!!!! Lmao you are so right on. The joke is on EVERYONE ELSE. Give the critics the keys to a 430 for 2 weeks and see how hard it is to get them back. All around, and all things considered, the Lexus LS is one of the finest cars ever made. Every time I drive, and every single action this car does (from the subtle V8 roar and smooth as silk tranny that melts the gears, to the damn seat belt illuminators that know when and when not to light up the passenger buckle), this car imparts luxury like almost no other. And lol that's exactly what I wanted.

And while I fully concede that it's no S65 or 760 sport, it's hardly a Lincoln. It's more on the soft side, but it handles quite well actually. It's very precise in everything it does. It all meshes quite well together, IMO. Especially if pure luxury is what you primarily seek, which I know I sure as hell did/do. It's not a floaty panther Town Car.


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