22's or 24's on an LS430
#34
Intermediate
Please bear in mind that the chassis and suspension of an LS430 was designed for 16" wheels.
As the cars age multiple posters report wheel bearing (hub) failure at right around 100 K miles on cars factory equipped with 18" wheels.
Increasing the unsprung weight has many consequences. None of them good.
As the cars age multiple posters report wheel bearing (hub) failure at right around 100 K miles on cars factory equipped with 18" wheels.
Increasing the unsprung weight has many consequences. None of them good.
#36
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Keeping the weight as low as possible on these tire wheel combs helps. The factory 16's weigh in the range of 52#'s with a Michelin AS tire mounted. Looking at the various weight charts of factory setups is helpful as well as what the wheel and tire weight is. Some of the 18" tires have been a spread of 3#'s and that can be pretty significant. More so on aged rubber type suspension bushings.
#37
Intermediate
I like the look too, within reason. I do love the handling of my LS, yes it leans, get used to that and the darn thing is on rails. Wheel bearings failing at low mileage in a Toyota product is not normal, they get that stuff right, engineering wise. I'm no expert on this car, I'm here to learn. I see no real difference in suspension parts across the LS 430 years. I think the marketing department used up the engineering departments 'margin' of reliability here.
#38
Lexus Champion
Agreed, my 05 has 18" wheels from the factory, that's not my point. I also have worn out wheel bearings @ 110 K miles, judging from the threads here I am not alone. I'm more pointing to the fact that the chassis and suspension design is circa late 1990's. Automotive fashion brought larger and larger wheels and Lexus went along with the fashion trend. Performance is the often quoted reason for the large wheels and low sidewall tires.
I like the look too, within reason. I do love the handling of my LS, yes it leans, get used to that and the darn thing is on rails. Wheel bearings failing at low mileage in a Toyota product is not normal, they get that stuff right, engineering wise. I'm no expert on this car, I'm here to learn. I see no real difference in suspension parts across the LS 430 years. I think the marketing department used up the engineering departments 'margin' of reliability here.
I like the look too, within reason. I do love the handling of my LS, yes it leans, get used to that and the darn thing is on rails. Wheel bearings failing at low mileage in a Toyota product is not normal, they get that stuff right, engineering wise. I'm no expert on this car, I'm here to learn. I see no real difference in suspension parts across the LS 430 years. I think the marketing department used up the engineering departments 'margin' of reliability here.
#39
Intermediate
My 05 UL came from the factory with 18" wheels. It's on the build sheet that Lexus.com provides. Yes, 18" was optional on the sport package.
Mine is the car where the previous owner said, everything please.
Mine is the car where the previous owner said, everything please.
#40
My 06 ML came with factory 18s. I would like to believe Lexus built the car with that size wheel being a likelihood.
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#43
Intermediate
See, that's the thing
I've been a Toyota guy for a lot of years, my very first new car was a 1975 Celica GT. Wish I had it back, it's now a classic.
Learning that wheel bearing failure is common on the LS 430 at around 100 K in not the Toyota I know. They generally get that right.
Longevity and reliability are hallmarks of the brand. Thus my opinion that their engineering margin was consumed. The engineers do not have a crystal ball. I can't recall a wheel bearing failure on any other Toyota product I have owned.
Learning that wheel bearing failure is common on the LS 430 at around 100 K in not the Toyota I know. They generally get that right.
Longevity and reliability are hallmarks of the brand. Thus my opinion that their engineering margin was consumed. The engineers do not have a crystal ball. I can't recall a wheel bearing failure on any other Toyota product I have owned.
#44
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I've been a Toyota guy for a lot of years, my very first new car was a 1975 Celica GT. Wish I had it back, it's now a classic.
Learning that wheel bearing failure is common on the LS 430 at around 100 K in not the Toyota I know. They generally get that right.
Longevity and reliability are hallmarks of the brand. Thus my opinion that their engineering margin was consumed. The engineers do not have a crystal ball. I can't recall a wheel bearing failure on any other Toyota product I have owned.
Learning that wheel bearing failure is common on the LS 430 at around 100 K in not the Toyota I know. They generally get that right.
Longevity and reliability are hallmarks of the brand. Thus my opinion that their engineering margin was consumed. The engineers do not have a crystal ball. I can't recall a wheel bearing failure on any other Toyota product I have owned.
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