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Old 05-01-06, 09:52 PM   #91
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I think there might be an issue with the Bilsteins spring perch set to "Low" in the fronts and using 45+ series tires?

I'm just waiting for someone to confirm that it wouldn't be a problem and I'll go with options that I originally picked: Bilstein/Eibach. SC430 wheels with 245/45/18.

What wheels are you running and why did you opt for the stock width? I think the sidewall height would have more effect from the road than the width?

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Actually, 01-05 SC430 wheels will not fit on 95+ LS400 in the front without spacers.
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Old 05-01-06, 10:01 PM   #92
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I have been kicking myself in the rear for the past 2 hours since I just realized that those wheels will not fit properly w/o the use of spacers!!!

For some reason, I didn't realize to think that there was a brake clearance difference between the 94 and the 95-97 models.

Now I have wheels that I paid for that will not even fit!!! That's what you call a D---A-- move!!!
I can't beiieve I just did that.
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I run a Tokico Hp blue shock with the H&R spring setup on my 92. Ride is really goodand rubbing is not an issue for me except over large bumps. I really cant fully evaluate my system because I have some other suspension issues that are being addressed (strut mounts, bushings....) and overall I run a tire that is 1" too big for my drop profile,225/60/16 (should have run 225/50/16). This tire size is great for stock setup clearance wise, no rubbing and can turn from end to end no problem, However at 1" lower with the H&R's, I really only have to worry about rubbing over large bumps and that is in the top of the wheel well.
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Hey Shawn -

I think there might be an issue with the Bilsteins spring perch set to "Low" in the fronts and using 45+ series tires?

I'm just waiting for someone to confirm that it wouldn't be a problem and I'll go with options that I originally picked: Bilstein/Eibach. SC430 wheels with 245/45/18.

What wheels are you running and why did you opt for the stock width? I think the sidewall height would have more effect from the road than the width?

- Mike
Mike the 45 tire is 1" taller than the 40...........so on the car ,tire to wheel well is 1/2' difference, so the upper setting for 45s would be better choice..............remember your car is a 2nd gen so people with 1st gen advice will not help you they are different .
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Mike the 45 tire is 1" taller than the 40...........so on the car ,tire to wheel well is 1/2' difference, so the upper setting for 45s would be better choice..............remember your car is a 2nd gen so people with 1st gen advice will not help you they are different .
Also the size from the strut groove to groove is not equal to height difference it makes on the car, the effect on the car height is much more.
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I'm very thankful to all the knowledgeable people o this board! Lexkost, let me know what you decide on what to do with your suspension.
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Hey Mike,
Steveski here. I have H&R lowering springs on my 95 LS. They lowered the vehicle about 1.0". The front looks (and is lower) than the rear. I have the stock struts still as they are not worn. Just the springs made a huge difference in ride and stance.

As for tires, I have 18 x 8.5 (245's) on the front and 18 x 9.5 (275's) on the rear. No rubbing problems at all.

I know you can get a strut tower brace and aftemarket bushing replacements (don't know if they would make a substantial difference. Also there are suspension mods from Tom's that cost under $1,000. Again, I don't know if they make a huge difference but will invest in them to try them out.

I will likely go with BillStein struts as they state a 30% increase in performance over stock. I will let you know how they work out.

Let me know please what other performance mods you find bud.

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The Bilsteins are nice if you keep the wheel weight close to stock. I've got some replies around here about the exact wheel and tire weights when I changed mine. You'll have to do a search.

The Tein CS's with the adjustable dampening is a big +. The 52# combo on mine is at the limit for good compression and rebound with the Bilstein/Eibach. IMO. To me it could benefit form stiffer dampening or a slightly higher spring rate. Anycase, you will further loose ride quality.

For a short spell I debated going to a 17 or fidning some way to reduce to unsprung weight. This might be offset by a two piece rotor combo. The stock 4 piston calipers are pretty light...like 8#'s so there would be few cost effective alternatives there.

The Bilsteins are heavy...like 1# more than the stock struts. Same with the Eibach springs at maybe 1.5#'s. So by the itme you finish with all this stuff, you are likely adding some 8-10#'s of rotational mass and 4#'s per corner in the suspenion.
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I think the consensus is to go with the Bilsteins. I've had experience with Bilsteins before but on a different car and they performed well.

I might be acquiring a complete used set of Bilsteins/Eibach? I'll keep you guys posted!

By the way, anyone out there running 245/35/20 with a 1" drop? Any rubbing issue while making turns? Comments?

Thanks for all the inputs and keep them coming!
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Old 05-04-06, 01:25 PM   #101
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Default 95-97 L Sportline Springs available?

I was surfing Ltunedparts.com and saw that they still have L Sportline Springs listed for the 95-97's. I called Carson Toyota to confirm but their parts guy is out. I went ahead and ordered them anyway. I just received an email confirmation that they will be shipping them shortly.

If this is true and they do send me the right springs, this is definitely a good deal considering Eibach's for those years are discontinued. Final price was $119+$11 shipping in CA.

Now I'm just crossing my fingers that they are the right springs? I'll keep everyone posted. Anyone have a part number from their old set?

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That's a good deal. I paid $200 for the Pro Kit way back.

What I'd like to learn is the part #'s for the Bilsteins that were included in the LSportline suspension kit. Those Bilsteins had three snap ring settings where the book replacement has 2. Not that i wnat mine any lower but it is a curosity.
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I bet those L Sportline/Bilstein's are the exact same ones as the book replacement but just with an added perch groove, and maybe just a smaller increments in between the grooves?

Someone has to have those..................... Anyone???
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The Bilsteins are nice if you keep the wheel weight close to stock. I've got some replies around here about the exact wheel and tire weights when I changed mine. You'll have to do a search.

The Tein CS's with the adjustable dampening is a big +. The 52# combo on mine is at the limit for good compression and rebound with the Bilstein/Eibach. IMO. To me it could benefit form stiffer dampening or a slightly higher spring rate. Anycase, you will further loose ride quality.

For a short spell I debated going to a 17 or fidning some way to reduce to unsprung weight. This might be offset by a two piece rotor combo. The stock 4 piston calipers are pretty light...like 5#'s so there would be few cost effective alternatives there.

The Bilsteins are heavy...like 1# more than the stock struts. Same with the Eibach springs at maybe 1.5#'s. So by the itme you finish with all this stuff, you are likely adding some 8-10#'s of rotational mass and 4#'s per corner in the suspenion.

Thanks for the info - very detailed. I have H&R springs/ Bilsteins and just added a Tom's strut tower brace......never thought about the weight differences - and my wheels have got to be heavier (18 x 8.5 front and 18 x 9.5 rear). Although it handles great now I bet it would be even better if the weight were reduced
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Hey im thinking of getting H&R performance springs and KYB-GR2 shocks. Is this a good combo or is there something else i should go for , i want it to be lowered 1-1.5" . Heres what my ls looks like now


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