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Old 06-24-03, 03:57 AM
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I am currently searching for an LS. I am torn between getting a 95 to 97 or a 98/99. The older ones are much lower priced, seems like you can find them in great shape in the $14k range. However, I really like the new front end/HIDs of the next generation. Not to mention 290 horses, 5 speed etc. 98/99 are hard to find under $21k unless you find one with a ton of miles, which I am not interested. Its the typical get what you want versus making a price compromise. Obviously both are fine cars assuming you find one that has been well maintained. My question is for members who have owned both - are the newer ones worth the price difference? Any other issues I should consider? Anything else specific you like about either model? Opinions are appreciated. Thanks...
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When I wrecked my 91 and had to buy a Newer LS I asked myself the same questions. I was hoping to spend less money and be more than satisfied with a 95 - 97 model. I'll tell ya I test drove many many LS's. There was a big price difference between the two but other than price there was a big mechanical difference. The engine felt so much stronger to me. The gas pedal had a much lighter feel to me because of the electronic throttle change. The wood in the 98 plus is a lighter more pleasing shade. The leather is softer in the 98s. The ride is even quieter because of better sound insulation and thick windshields. I can go on.

What I told myself while shopping was to be open minded. I looked at both model years. I just did not find the right perfectly maintained low miles 95-97 for the right price. I did happen to find a perfectly maintained garage kept and babied 24k mile 98 for only $28,500. Yes that is a little more than I wanted to spend but I tell you it was well worth it. The car is practically brand new. Now I did tons of research to find this car. Every day THREE time a day I logged onto AutoTrader.com, EbayMotors.com, Cars.com, and all my local papers web sites. This was a pain especial since I was doing this at work too. But I ended up with the deal of the century. SO consistent shopping pays off. I almost bought a car of ebaymotors but backed out at the last minute cause the condition was not as good as I wanted. I need up getting my car from an ad on Cars.com. That web site pulls ad from all the US newspapers, but I had to really widened my search area to over 100 miles to find my car. It was a tiny piddly little ad that just red 98LS400 25k $28,500 and phone number with no area code and no color. I did not call for a couple of days cause I figured at that price it must have had something wrong or a cheesy color. Remember this was almost a year ago so $28 was a steal. So anyways I looked up the Area code and called. The very next day I drove the 100 miles and bought the car.

So basically do lots of shopping and see what you find.

Good Luck and let us know what you find.
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Old 06-24-03, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: 95-97 vs 98/99

Originally posted by NiteOwl
I am currently searching for an LS. I am torn between getting a 95 to 97 or a 98/99. The older ones are much lower priced, seems like you can find them in great shape in the $14k range. However, I really like the new front end/HIDs of the next generation. Not to mention 290 horses, 5 speed etc. 98/99 are hard to find under $21k unless you find one with a ton of miles, which I am not interested. Its the typical get what you want versus making a price compromise. Obviously both are fine cars assuming you find one that has been well maintained. My question is for members who have owned both - are the newer ones worth the price difference? Any other issues I should consider? Anything else specific you like about either model? Opinions are appreciated. Thanks...
To me the newer ones are not worth the price. Consider this. I got my 92 LS400 for $5,400, with 170k miles on it. about 1,000 dollars later it runs like new. Of course everything is still old, but in running condition. A friend got a 98 LS400 for $35,000 in mint condition. Of course it is nicer, but the older gen 1 LS400 is just a smashing looking car. Newer models, IMO, just don't have the Japanese classic body styling. The gen 2 was the worst offender in terms of exterior styling. So, with an additional 30,000 dollars in my pocket, I am not at all disgruntled that I did not buy a newer LS400. You are free to your own opinion.
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Bottomline is your price range. There are many many differences between the 1st Gen and the 2nd Gen models. For comparisons, check out this link from lexus.com

http://www.lexus.com/cpo/model_library/ls_98.html

I own a '99 fully loaded, now with 72K miles. Paid $33K OTD, in So Cal. Car is fully loaded with everything except air suspension. Initially, I had a lower budget of $25K. But after test driving a '96 and a '97 within the price range, I quickly upped my buying range to ~$35K OTD, so my purchase of the fully loaded '99 was a good deal FOR ME.

If you can afford spending a bit more, go for the newer models. But if $$$ is king, then get no earlier than a '93. It is believed that this model year had many of the kinks in the earlier releases fixed. It is also a great looking design.

Good luck with your purchase, and let us know what you get.
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It all boils down to one's taste and satifaction, and of course your pocket. At the time I bought my LS back in '99 it had about 84k on the clock. The 3rd generation wasn't even an option, the dealers still wanted a good $40k+, but if I really had the option I would rather 3rd gen.. It's faster, more options and I just love the HIDs. Don't get me wrong I love my '95!
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