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Old 08-22-14, 11:48 PM
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I've decided to start a new thread because I think this may help some members who are confronted with replacing balljoints and tierod ends. After researching and using some common sense, I figured out there is an overlooked flaw with how these parts are installed and why they "may" fail prematurely. I'll just copy and paste what I had replied to another member, see if if makes any sense or if there is something you want to add.

jollyczar you are absolutely spot on, if you view the UCA's from each co., Moog, Medvotech, acdelco, and etc., you will see that they all have the exact same design and look EXACTLY alike. I was fooled by Medvotech because their photos looked different from the rest and they have a lifetime guarantee, but guess what? I just received them today and they look IDENTICAL to Moog, ACDelco, Dorman, and the rest of them. I was angry because they looked nothing like the photo and discription they'd post on the Rockauto website. I am now convinced that they all are made in Taiwan, same UCA but different Co. names (and prices) stamped on them. They may had in the past been made in Canada or somewhere else, but not anymore. So I caution members that you may think you're getting something different or better than the rest, but I don't think that's the case. Your choice is the dealer or made-in-Taiwan aftermarket. I don't even think Toyota makes them anymore in Japan after 5 yrs of each model year production. Here's another valuable tip, if you install them yourselves, make sure you thoroughly grease the boot surface that makes contact with the steering knuckle for BOTH uca and lbj, as well as the tierods, failure to do so will prematurely tear up your boots and ultimately the joints. Maintaining the boots are extremely important on these parts because they rub back and forth on metal surfaces every time you turn the steering wheel. I've lightly sanded the metal surfaces, cleaned and coated them with silicone spray before I installed the jts and boots with ample amount of grease between the boot and metal surface. I hope this helps. Good luck.

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Old 08-23-14, 07:10 AM
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that is a good tip on prevention, but time and mileage will affect them also, and the winters in Wis, are harder (wet) than the heat and grime down here, but they will have to be replaced at some point.... either way. I dont see any way to keep a 15-20 year old car OEM.. but it is a pleasant thought..
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Originally Posted by billydpowe
that is a good tip on prevention, but time and mileage will affect them also, and the winters in Wis, are harder (wet) than the heat and grime down here, but they will have to be replaced at some point.... either way. I dont see any way to keep a 15-20 year old car OEM.. but it is a pleasant thought..
Wow billyd, that is a very impressive array of cars you've owned, some were absolutely awesome. Which were your favorites and what made you turn to Lexus? Do you prefer the LS400's over the newer 460's and etc? I bet you still wish you had a few of those classics, huh?
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Originally Posted by LS400FAN
Wow billyd, that is a very impressive array of cars you've owned, some were absolutely awesome. Which were your favorites and what made you turn to Lexus? Do you prefer the LS400's over the newer 460's and etc? I bet you still wish you had a few of those classics, huh?
yes yes yes, the 55 olds 88 I bought new and hit 120 going home, a favorite, also my red 39 Ford pickup had a chevy engine in it... Wish I still had it and my model A I restored (took 7 years to complete). and the 59 Bonneville was awesome in its day. I have had 12 LS400's, I drove one in 1996 and just knew I had to have one.. nothing since, we now get them two at a time.. the quality was so good..... I had my own repair shop for 30 years (until 96), and now have been retired 18 years... turned 80 in june. drove a 430 and just liked my 400's the best..
Keep up the good work...
this was the real colors of my 55 Olds light blue and robins egg blue..
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Originally Posted by billydpowe
yes yes yes, the 55 olds 88 I bought new and hit 120 going home, a favorite, also my red 39 Ford pickup had a chevy engine in it... Wish I still had it and my model A I restored (took 7 years to complete). and the 59 Bonneville was awesome in its day. I have had 12 LS400's, I drove one in 1996 and just knew I had to have one.. nothing since, we now get them two at a time.. the quality was so good..... I had my own repair shop for 30 years (until 96), and now have been retired 18 years... turned 80 in june. drove a 430 and just liked my 400's the best..
Keep up the good work...
this was the real colors of my 55 Olds light blue and robins egg blue..
Btw, congrats on your 80th b'day, I hope I make it there. I love old cars, they had so much character, you will never find that kind of culture in today's cars. That said, I agee with you about the LS400, but owning 12 of them is really something, I use to be that way about Saabs ('78 -'93), I think I went through about 6 of them. Any particular reason you had so many? Unlike you, I get attached and passionate about my '95 LS 400 and plan to keep it going until the end, I bought my wife a '98 LS and she's crazy about it, which is easy to do when I do all the work on it I have 212k miles on mine, she's pushing 260k, what's amazing is after 8 yrs of ownership I really have no desire for anything else, however I do have a few other toys (1979 Fiat Spider & 1990 Jaguar Vanden Plas - only 26k miles) to keep me content. The LS400 is by far the best car I've ever owned, just to think that it's endured 20 Wisconsin winters and not one speck of rust on the body anywhere, I bet 10 yr. old Mercedes' can't say that. Keep on keepin' on my friend.

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Originally Posted by LS400FAN
... however I do have a few other toys (1979 Fiat Spider & 1990 Jaguar Vanden Plas - only 26k miles) to keep me content...
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'79 FIAT Spider was my first car, got it back in 1986. Since then, I've had a VW camper, Porsche 911 (both air cooled; still have the 911), and the LS400 (and nothing else - just these 4). All great cars, all lasting a long time.

Thanks for the update on UCA's. The available solutions has been changing over the years. I've been keeping an eye on it since I know I'll need them one day. But not yet, I inspected them recently and they're fine.
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