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Old 05-15-14, 08:04 PM
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^^^^^ That's because most shops wont change the capacitors for you and if they do they most likely wont get the correct capacitors that are posted in that thread.
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Originally Posted by sha4000
^^^^^ That's because most shops wont change the capacitors for you and if they do they most likely wont get the correct capacitors that are posted in that thread.
Aah - got it - so let the shop pull the ECU and send it to the shop they use in No. CA who's been doing all their ECU work for past 15 years? Is this the generally preferred method of solving this issue? I cant picture many amateur Lexus owners/tinkerers ordering caps and dusting off their old Weller soldering gun...thanks!

Just spoke to the shop and they said they hadnt diagnosed the problem yet - they've had the car since Monday AM - and they're more than eager to pull the ECU and ship it to their specialist up north at this point - thanks to all!

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Old 05-16-14, 09:55 AM
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I would check the coils... while I know that is not related to a TB/WP service, the symptoms are there.
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Originally Posted by bernynhel
Aah - got it - so let the shop pull the ECU and send it to the shop they use in No. CA who's been doing all their ECU work for past 15 years? Is this the generally preferred method of solving this issue? I cant picture many amateur Lexus owners/tinkerers ordering caps and dusting off their old Weller soldering gun...thanks!

Just spoke to the shop and they said they hadnt diagnosed the problem yet - they've had the car since Monday AM - and they're more than eager to pull the ECU and ship it to their specialist up north at this point - thanks to all!

Bill
Actually that's what that whole thread is about. PPl fixing their own ECUs and the correct procedure.
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the thread also correctly identifies the right capacitors that need to be purchased for a proper fix. most "specialists" are not keen to knowing this information (unless given to them).

just to justify the thread, yamae who is quoted many times is a very knowledgeable fellow who resides in japan and has worked with our ECUs before. he is the main contributor to the thread so credit goes to him and lscowboyls!

and you only need to read the first post, not all 800 in the thread .
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Originally Posted by PureDrifter
could have easily skipped a tooth on a 1st gen and not cause any other issues. Specifically if the tensioner isn't properly tightened.
+ 1 for this.

It would be wise to replace those ECU capacitors as one of preventive measures but judging from the situation, skipped teeth may be causing the problem, I worry.

Those ECU capacitors do not kill the ECU suddenly. As the ESR increases, the bypassing capability becomes weaker little by little and the performance of the ECU becomes poorer and poorer causing misjudgements of the processor and most people do not notice it when just started. Several months or more than 1 year later, they finally notice the problem.

Some people often surprise changing capacitors as a preventive measure that the car runs far better than before like a new.
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The shop couldn't read any codes on their laptop and scanner probably because the 93 model doesn't have OBDII diagnostics, all you need is a bent paperclip and be able to count flashes.
I'd like to know how they managed to plug it in!
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Originally Posted by steve2006
The shop couldn't read any codes on their laptop and scanner probably because the 93 model doesn't have OBDII diagnostics, all you need is a bent paperclip and be able to count flashes.
I'd like to know how they managed to plug it in!
agreed, I would like to know as well.
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Originally Posted by steve2006
The shop couldn't read any codes on their laptop and scanner probably because the 93 model doesn't have OBDII diagnostics, all you need is a bent paperclip and be able to count flashes.
I'd like to know how they managed to plug it in!
Right - its not throwing any codes - I may not know what theyre doing but they do - kinda - they know its not OBDII - theyve been in business with the same manager and owner for 30 years - they may stink but at least theyre experienced at it - theyve tried everything to get the codes but not getting anywhere - I just told them to send the computer the their standby subcontractor in No Cal - has a one day turnaround
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Originally Posted by Yamae
+ 1 for this.

It would be wise to replace those ECU capacitors as one of preventive measures but judging from the situation, skipped teeth may be causing the problem, I worry.

Those ECU capacitors do not kill the ECU suddenly. As the ESR increases, the bypassing capability becomes weaker little by little and the performance of the ECU becomes poorer and poorer causing misjudgements of the processor and most people do not notice it when just started. Several months or more than 1 year later, they finally notice the problem.

Some people often surprise changing capacitors as a preventive measure that the car runs far better than before like a new.
Could the car have run great for over a month on a skipped tooth and wrong tensioner setting?

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by timmy0tool
the thread also correctly identifies the right capacitors that need to be purchased for a proper fix. most "specialists" are not keen to knowing this information (unless given to them).

just to justify the thread, yamae who is quoted many times is a very knowledgeable fellow who resides in japan and has worked with our ECUs before. he is the main contributor to the thread so credit goes to him and lscowboyls!

and you only need to read the first post, not all 800 in the thread .
Thats what I did - assuming the 11th post is the first since there are no posts 1-10 - but #11 has all the info and cap specs.

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by sha4000
Actually that's what that whole thread is about. PPl fixing their own ECUs and the correct procedure.
I get that some people can do it - I probably could if I practiced r n ring caps on old circuit boards for an hour or two - but the shop has the car because they did the timing bellt and starter end of March so there it is - thanks!
Old 05-19-14, 06:28 AM
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It's cool since they fixed the car last so let them determine what's the issue. I was just pointing out the purpose of that thread. I hope they get it straightened out. By the way I don't feel comfortable doing that repair either.
Old 05-20-14, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sha4000
It's cool since they fixed the car last so let them determine what's the issue. I was just pointing out the purpose of that thread. I hope they get it straightened out. By the way I don't feel comfortable doing that repair either.
So they sent my ECU to a shop that went out of business - Python in Stanton - I tried calling them but none of their numbers worked and yesterday the ECU came back to the shop that sent it out - so now they sent the thing to ecmtogo.com - a company in ft lauderdale that has an F- rating w/BBB and a bunch of scam complaints - they want $500 + shipping - they are accused of getting ECUs from junkyards and shipping them as found to fill orders for their services paid with PayPal online - I told them to only re-cap the board before doing anything else - Im not happy.
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I would be extremely worried with that shop also. I would try reaching out to Yamae or LScowboy.
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