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Old 08-17-13, 08:48 AM
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Does anyone know what all the letters and numbers mean on a 1998 LS400 ?
JT33CNFUE82224472 (Australian import)
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you have to type it in accurately before we can decode it - that is not a valid VIN
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That VIN is not valid. Here is what all the letters and numbers mean;
http://www.vehicleidentificationnumb...lexus-car.html
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Ooops... That's the VIN for our Peugeot !!! Here's the right VIN JT753UF2000140769
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Hi deanshark...
I went to that site you directed me to.... And apart from the JT at the beginning, nothing added into anything....
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Originally Posted by fastegg
Hi deanshark...
I went to that site you directed me to.... And apart from the JT at the beginning, nothing added into anything....
that is because you are having trouble typing in VIN numbers accurately, now you have two VIN's you have typed in, and neither one is valid

If you want us to decode it, we will be happy to, but you will have to type it in accurately

and not "mostly" accurate - it has to be exact and precise - there is a check digit that everything has to add up to!

can you get your wife or girlfriend to type it in? - women are good with fine detail


Originally Posted by fastegg
Ooops... That's the VIN for our Peugeot !!! Here's the right VIN JT753UF2000140769
and no, that first one is not from a Peugeot, unless they secretly made some Peugeot's in Japan at the Toyota factory!

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hI LScowboy
I just went and double checked the VIN and it is as I say JT753UF2000140769
I have no idea why it's coming up as invalid VIN.... maybe because its never been registered in USA perhaps ?
In that VIN indentifier that one of you guys sent me it says all 3 VIN's ive put in are invalid.... My Lex, my dads Subaru JF2BH9KRA3G063759 and my girlfriends Peugeot VF33CNFUE82224472
... maybe because their all registered in Australia...... buggered if I know......
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the "Peugeot" VIN you typed in post #1 the first time as JT33CNFUE82224472 and in your most recent post you typed it as VF33CNFUE82224472

do you see what I am getting at here? - go out to the car and look through the windshield and recheck the Lexus VIN and get it correct - the 10th digit, for example, can never be a zero.
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The VIN for the Lex is correct... Ive even scanned the rego papers that clearly states it...
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that is why I said to go to the windshield - post up a pic of the windshield VIN or at least the Lexus door sticker

Lexus/Toyota follows international standards for VIN numbering and a zero (0) as the 10th digit is an invalid VIN, was this car totaled or stolen or anything?

not only is zero an illegal character for the 10th digit, so are the letters I, O, Q, U, and Z

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I did a search for an Australian Vin decoder and punched in the number. It did have a result, and said it was a Lexus car built by Toyota in Japan. There were additional details, but it wanted me to pay like 5 bucks for it to see further.

Crucify me if I am wrong, but Vin numbers vary from country to country depending on governmental regulations, so i'm sure in the US the vin numbers you have provided are nonsense and probably translate incorrectly by the standards here.

As borrowed from wikipedia:

There are at least four competing standards used to calculate VIN.

FMVSS 115, Part 565: Used in United States and Canada[2]
ISO Standard 3779: Used in Europe and many other parts of the world
SAE J853: Very similar to the ISO standard
ADR 61/2 used in Australia, referring back to ISO 3779 and 3780.
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the format does vary from country to country in some respects, but not in the 10th digit and its rules, did he go outside and look through the windshield glass yet?
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The car is not here its in a panel shop getting repaired after a minor traffic accident. We no longer have rego labels on the windscreen so I can't look there. All I know is the VIN I provided is the one stamped on the VIN plate. And besides, the VIN on the rego label is the same as the VIN on the rego papers. Just for the hell of it, I might as well pay the $5 Yoshiman reckons you can pay to do a check... just to see what it says...
And no, the car has never been stolen/written off.... I'm the 2nd owner and personally know the original owner...
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Hey Yoshiman... Where's this site where I can pay $5 to do a VIN check ?
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Originally Posted by fastegg
Hey Yoshiman... Where's this site where I can pay $5 to do a VIN check ?
I don't think I am doing a very good job communicating

It is not necessary to pay $5 for a VIN decoding, there are plenty of places online that will do it completely free.

but you still have to have a valid VIN number, that is why I said to photograph the VIN that is permanently etched into the vehicle itself, or at least the original door manufacturer's sticker/plate

none of the free VIN decoding places (or even the $5 place) can decode anything if the VIN in invalid, and with invalid character in the 10th digit, no one can decode it! - make sense?

It is International standard, ISO 3779 - 1983 - not every digit is internationally regulated by the ISO standards, but certain digits are, such as digits 1,2, 10 and usually 9

from wikipedia:

One consistent element of the VIS is the 10th digit, which is required worldwide to encode the model year of the vehicle. Besides the three letters that are not allowed in the VIN itself (I, O and Q), the letters U and Z and the digit 0 are not used for the model year code. Note that the year code is the model year for the vehicle.


Now if Australia is not requiring manufacturers to adhere to the ISO standards, then the only way to decode a VIN in that case is to just do it manually, no free or $5 service will work, because these are automated and require an ISO compliant VIN with valid 10th digit and (usually) a correct check digit (9th digit)

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