Bad Starter?
12-06-12, 07:38 PM
#16
Lexus Champion
if you are already doing the starter, the lower EGR pipe isn't so bad
I hear these yahoo's talking like they can do the LS400 starter in 1/2 hour, but when I worked at the largest Lexus dealer in America, JM Lexus, our fastest techs took about 6 hours, so don't believe the hot air in here or elsewhere!
I hear these yahoo's talking like they can do the LS400 starter in 1/2 hour, but when I worked at the largest Lexus dealer in America, JM Lexus, our fastest techs took about 6 hours, so don't believe the hot air in here or elsewhere!
12-06-12, 08:16 PM
#17
if you are already doing the starter, the lower EGR pipe isn't so bad
I hear these yahoo's talking like they can do the LS400 starter in 1/2 hour, but when I worked at the largest Lexus dealer in America, JM Lexus, our fastest techs took about 6 hours, so don't believe the hot air in here or elsewhere!
I hear these yahoo's talking like they can do the LS400 starter in 1/2 hour, but when I worked at the largest Lexus dealer in America, JM Lexus, our fastest techs took about 6 hours, so don't believe the hot air in here or elsewhere!
12-06-12, 08:45 PM
#18
if you are already doing the starter, the lower EGR pipe isn't so bad
I hear these yahoo's talking like they can do the LS400 starter in 1/2 hour, but when I worked at the largest Lexus dealer in America, JM Lexus, our fastest techs took about 6 hours, so don't believe the hot air in here or elsewhere!
I hear these yahoo's talking like they can do the LS400 starter in 1/2 hour, but when I worked at the largest Lexus dealer in America, JM Lexus, our fastest techs took about 6 hours, so don't believe the hot air in here or elsewhere!
i did not know that because you worked at a big Lexus dealership, that makes you some sort of expert on LS400 starters and how long it takes to do them. I find it highly dubious that you specifically talked to techs about how fast they did a LS400 starter job in? When I was 19 I worked at a Ford dealer, before going to school to become a tech, and even then I never talked to the techs about bill times or how fast they could complete a specific job on a specific car.
But i'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one...
Even knowing that, how does a 6-7hr job explode into 3days?
12-06-12, 09:18 PM
#19
Lexus Champion
3 days would be the average home Joe Shadetree - if he could do it at all
and I never claimed to be a fast mechanic myself, although I do hold some worldwide A/C repair speed records from the 1990's that still stand (like R&R 1995-98 Chevy truck compressor, orifice tube, accumulator, evac 15 minutes & recharge - all that in 32 minutes flat
(in order to do this, you have to be wrenching the whole time you are both evacuating and recharging, and you would need a Robinair type A/C machine to even get into the ballpark)
PS - book time is 2.4 hours, this is how a tech can flag 24 hours in an 8 hour shift
well heck yeah we talk about it, we even race! - see above!
and I never claimed to be a fast mechanic myself, although I do hold some worldwide A/C repair speed records from the 1990's that still stand (like R&R 1995-98 Chevy truck compressor, orifice tube, accumulator, evac 15 minutes & recharge - all that in 32 minutes flat
(in order to do this, you have to be wrenching the whole time you are both evacuating and recharging, and you would need a Robinair type A/C machine to even get into the ballpark)
PS - book time is 2.4 hours, this is how a tech can flag 24 hours in an 8 hour shift
I find it highly dubious that you specifically talked to techs about how fast they did a LS400 starter job in?
Last edited by LScowboyLS; 12-06-12 at 09:25 PM.
12-07-12, 01:13 PM
#21
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if you are already doing the starter, the lower EGR pipe isn't so bad
I hear these yahoo's talking like they can do the LS400 starter in 1/2 hour, but when I worked at the largest Lexus dealer in America, JM Lexus, our fastest techs took about 6 hours, so don't believe the hot air in here or elsewhere!
I hear these yahoo's talking like they can do the LS400 starter in 1/2 hour, but when I worked at the largest Lexus dealer in America, JM Lexus, our fastest techs took about 6 hours, so don't believe the hot air in here or elsewhere!
12-07-12, 01:55 PM
#22
actually, iirc, the Northstar IM is super easy to remove. 16 or so bolts, the intake tube, quick disconnect fuel line, one main wire harness connector and maybe 3 vacuum lines. if you know what your are doing, you can easily have it out very fast as it's all modular and comes out as a single unit if you do it right.
12-08-12, 03:05 AM
#23
Lexus Champion
so you were a Lexus Tech and a GM tech?
these mega dealerships in Phoenix each had in excess of 100 service bays, and at Courtesy Chevy, I was even able to work the 4pm to midnight shift, pretty sweet!
I am not nearly fast enough on all areas of the car to be a bumper to bumper dealership tech, which is what 98% of techs in America are at new car dealerships (they have to work the next service order, might be anything.)
about the only other area where I specialize is drivability, hence my famous ECU capacitors leaking breakthrough, and associated thread.
Last edited by LScowboyLS; 12-08-12 at 03:09 AM.
12-10-12, 04:01 PM
#25
Lead Lap
Hello all,
I have a 96 LS400 with 145K miles on the car. In the last month or so I have had an intermittent problem when trying to start the car. At times it will turn over, weakly, for about 1 second and then the starter stops---there is no clicking associated with this. When this occurs I turn the ignition off and then restart the car, at that time the starter spins like normal and the car fires right up. At other times I turn the key and get nothing, no audible click. When this happens I still have dash lights. Once again cycling the key fixes the problem.
Being that my battery was 5-6 yrs old I replaced it even thought it checked out OK. That was yesterday and the problem happened again this morning, weak turn-over, then ignition off and back on and then perfect spinning starter.
At this point I assume I have either a ground problem or a bad starter. Can a starter spin poorly and then work perfect a few seconds later? What would be the most suspect ground point to check? I did turn on my lights and then start the car to see if the headlights dimmed excessively while the starter was spinning--they did not. Any advice from the pros here is greatly appreciated. I have a spare car so I might try the starter myself and hit the egr pipe while the intake is off.
96 LS400 145K
2003 LS430 135K
2000 LX470 124K
I have a 96 LS400 with 145K miles on the car. In the last month or so I have had an intermittent problem when trying to start the car. At times it will turn over, weakly, for about 1 second and then the starter stops---there is no clicking associated with this. When this occurs I turn the ignition off and then restart the car, at that time the starter spins like normal and the car fires right up. At other times I turn the key and get nothing, no audible click. When this happens I still have dash lights. Once again cycling the key fixes the problem.
Being that my battery was 5-6 yrs old I replaced it even thought it checked out OK. That was yesterday and the problem happened again this morning, weak turn-over, then ignition off and back on and then perfect spinning starter.
At this point I assume I have either a ground problem or a bad starter. Can a starter spin poorly and then work perfect a few seconds later? What would be the most suspect ground point to check? I did turn on my lights and then start the car to see if the headlights dimmed excessively while the starter was spinning--they did not. Any advice from the pros here is greatly appreciated. I have a spare car so I might try the starter myself and hit the egr pipe while the intake is off.
96 LS400 145K
2003 LS430 135K
2000 LX470 124K
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12-25-12, 01:39 PM
#26
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Got the car back last week with new starter and egr pipe. The mechanic wasn't bragging about how fast he got the starter out. I asked him how long the job took and he said he didn't know. I assume that translates to hours and hours and hours.....
What a difference a new EGR tube can make.
What a difference a new EGR tube can make.
Last edited by midwest2; 12-25-12 at 01:40 PM. Reason: typo
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