Originally posted by jbatast What do you mean by lower setting. Are you talking coil overs or just regular Bilstein struts, just like those that came on the Lexus
The bilstein struts has a snap ring that holds the lower spring mount onto the strut ( it is not a welded on mount like the stock struts) it has a high position and another a 1/2 lower ......just remove it and put it in the lower groove...........This is not here say I installed the Springs and Struts myself!
I realy want to cry> Ispend months researching the right springs and struts combo. I spent five hundred dollars on new springs (Eibach 1" and stock struts) after months of savings. I research the mechanic and on February 14th (my Valentine day massacre) we installed the parts.
NOW I WANT TO CRY! Why?
1.) The right rear strut is defective. It makes an odd vibration when it is compressed...almost like there is a pepple in the strut cahmber.
2.) The right rear strut near the strut mount makea a God awful noise when I hit a bump in the road. NOTE - When we assemble the spring/strut combination before installation...I notice that the there was very little spring compression....that is you could wiggle the spring....the mechaic said not to wotty about since the weight of the care will load it down.
3.) The left rear makes a little noise whne it hit a big bumpt...again like the spring is rattaling around in there.
4.) The mechanic said don't worry that the struts are making contact with the strut bumper...that is why its there. I am worried....
PLEASE help.. I am crushed by this......I will say the front is great....good compression and all.....the back is problem. Further, the handling is awseome. Real good....no dip at all when turining.
I NEED ADVICE --- And do not tell me to stop crying......
first of all... lowered springs and stock struts is the biggest waste of money.. beause you gotta go with aftermarket struts when you lower your car.. you are asking for trouble when you dont. Also depending on the mileage, you might have wanted to chagne the strut mounts as well. PLus when you drop the car.. you hear a bunch of clunking and popping that you've never heard before, its almost safe to say its normal.. It's happening to me as well, unless you change every darn bushing or ball joint there is...
its all a matter of how much mileage you got
btw, 500 for the Eibachn springs? I got mine new for 250.. sorry man, i dunno what to tell you
I've used stock struts with cut and lowering springs...sometimes you can get away with it, you take your chance. The recco is to get performance units to match the springs. From what you describe, I'd exchange the right rear, this may eliminate the problem all together.
The spring should not be loose in the assembly...there is something wrong with that. How is the ride height in the back? (It is important to take a pre-measurement to check ride height before and after install.)
The bump stop should not be bottoming out, usually these are cut an appropriate amount to compensate for lowering springs. If it is at bottom, you have no suspension travel and this was indicated by a loose spring in the assembly. Was a front spring accidentally installed in back? (I dunno if this is possible as the fit would be obvious.) The part #'s all match for your application?
Some cars do creak and groan but in most cases, it is other suspension parts showing their wear. Check the bushings and such. How many miles on your car?
I also hav ea 97, but with twice the mileage. Sorry to hear about your trouble. It seems that you only have a problem in the rear. If you insist on better handling, then get 2 aftermarket struts for the rear and leave the front as is. Your handling will be even better than it is now and you won't feel as much harshness since the front struts are still stock.
As far as your suspension bushings showing ware, I think that at 75K miles they should still be in good shape (unless it's an NYC car).
Oh, almost forgot... Find another mechanic!
If this guy tells you that it's normal for the springs to be loose or for the car to bottom out all the time, he obviously doesn't give a !@#$ about you or your car. And if he does, then he just isn't qualified to even look at your ride, much less F@#$K with it!
The Eibach springs in the rear will bind when compressed...going over bumps and such, it is the spring compressing on itself. Todd and I discovered that when we took mine for a test ride. Eibach should enclose insulators to place on the second coil. He removed the rears and wrapped an insulator around it and the noise was gone. No problem with the front.
Thanks....can you tell me where you put on the bottom insulator and what you used.....that would be great because the noise is anoying. Also, where did you hear the noise from...mine seem to come from the top, but I suspect it is traveling
It is the second coil that will bind on the top and third windings so wrapping it up, eliminates the noise. I don't know what the material is, Todd at TM Engineering had some so he applied it. The better suspension shops should have some sort of insulator to wrap around the spring.
If sitting in the back, it comes from each side of the strut tower mount. When you hear it from the drivers seat, it seems to be random but sitting inthe back seat, it is localized on each side.