LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000) Discussion topics related to the 1990 - 2000 Lexus LS400

good/bad praise on tokico's..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-22-02, 07:09 AM
  #1  
Lvangundy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default good/bad praise on tokico's..

I'm posting in the main forum for LS, (it doesn't seem alot of people browse through the suspension/handling threads) so if admins feel like moving this, please do ;-)

Anyway..I've been getting ready to go with the Tokico blue's for the front of my 90 LS. BUT after doing some research and reading reviews on them, it seems some people had bad experiences with them blowing out and leaking. Some also mentioned bad floating on the highway.

Here at carreview.com are some user reviews (which are mostly honda/acura drivers.)

So, has anyone here who has the tokico blues installed had any problems so far? Is there alot of body roll and loose traction? I guess anything is better than worn out stock struts, so replacing mine is a priority. oh and no, I'm not looking for touring performance or anything, just something good and soft like OEM with better handling.

Last edited by Lvangundy; 07-22-02 at 07:16 AM.
Old 07-22-02, 09:52 AM
  #2  
zushwa
Lead Lap
 
zushwa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 479
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I can't say that shocks alone will give better performance but my combo of H&R springs and Tokico shocks have been a great investment. Better handling and looks and no noticable loss of comfort noticed by me or other passengers.
Old 07-22-02, 02:58 PM
  #3  
2UX31 YM
Driver
 
2UX31 YM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Funny you should ask that. I just had all four shocks replaced on saturday with Tokico Blues. I got them from shox.com.
I used to work at the installation shop when i was 16 so they only charged me $175 to install all 4. The fronts they said were very easy only about 1 hour to do. The rears they said took over 3 hours, and I had already taken the rear seat out.
The shocks drive great. They are a little stiff at first. My LS has 141000 on it and had the original shocks. Maybe its just me but it feels as if the car accelerates better with less rear end sag and stops better with less front end dive. The side to side motion of the car is also improved. I also used to have this shaking between 70-85mph. It is now as smooth as silk.

I should be getting new tires this week or next week along with a 4 wheel alignment. Ill let you know if there is anf difference.
Old 07-22-02, 03:43 PM
  #4  
LOTC
VIP 様式
 
LOTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: California
Posts: 4,410
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally posted by zushwa
I can't say that shocks alone will give better performance but my combo of H&R springs and Tokico shocks have been a great investment. Better handling and looks and no noticable loss of comfort noticed by me or other passengers.
Zushwa any problems so far with the h/r and tokico combo? any squeaks or creeking?

anybody else tried kyb,blisten, or koni on their LS?
Old 07-22-02, 04:48 PM
  #5  
zushwa
Lead Lap
 
zushwa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Va Beach
Posts: 479
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by CELSIOR GOD


Zushwa any problems so far with the h/r and tokico combo? any squeaks or creeking?

anybody else tried kyb,blisten, or koni on their LS?
No squeaks or creeking. The day of installation I had to cross this *****ty bridge (James River Bridge for the locals) and it sounded like I hit the bump-stop??? and about a month ago I heard a similar sound *once* on a road I travel every day but other than that it's been fine. Once I get 20's I'll decide if the handling and look are to my satisfaction and if not...well, you know the alternative.
Old 07-22-02, 06:08 PM
  #6  
GA400
Lead Lap

 
GA400's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by 2UX31 YM
Funny you should ask that. I just had all four shocks replaced on saturday with Tokico Blues. I got them from shox.com.
I used to work at the installation shop when i was 16 so they only charged me $175 to install all 4. The fronts they said were very easy only about 1 hour to do. The rears they said took over 3 hours, and I had already taken the rear seat out.
The shocks drive great. They are a little stiff at first. My LS has 141000 on it and had the original shocks. Maybe its just me but it feels as if the car accelerates better with less rear end sag and stops better with less front end dive. The side to side motion of the car is also improved. I also used to have this shaking between 70-85mph. It is now as smooth as silk.

I should be getting new tires this week or next week along with a 4 wheel alignment. Ill let you know if there is anf difference.
Thanks for sharing your experience, dude! I plan to get this done in the next couple of weeks and trying to decide between Lexus oem, Monroe, or Tokico. did you get your springs replaced too? did you get a 4 wheel alignment too?

Thx

GA400
Old 07-23-02, 02:26 AM
  #7  
FusionMan79
Driver
 
FusionMan79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 129
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

How many of you with Tokico blues had the suspension supports replaced when you had your struts installed?
Old 07-23-02, 07:10 AM
  #8  
2UX31 YM
Driver
 
2UX31 YM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by GA400


Thanks for sharing your experience, dude! I plan to get this done in the next couple of weeks and trying to decide between Lexus oem, Monroe, or Tokico. did you get your springs replaced too? did you get a 4 wheel alignment too?

Thx

GA400
I kept my factory springs because of the snow here in Grand Island NY. I will have a 4 wheel alignment done once i get my new tires in a week or so. The car does drive perfectly straight right now though.
Old 07-23-02, 11:37 AM
  #9  
GA400
Lead Lap

 
GA400's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cool

Originally posted by 2UX31 YM


I kept my factory springs because of the snow here in Grand Island NY. I will have a 4 wheel alignment done once i get my new tires in a week or so. The car does drive perfectly straight right now though.
Thanks! I am looking forward to my smooth ride having a smooth ride
Old 07-23-02, 02:13 PM
  #10  
TRM04
Driver
 
TRM04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: CVille, IL
Posts: 187
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Could someone share pics of their lowered LS with stock wheels? I'd like to see what it looks like since I also will be replacing my stock setup with an aftermarket one with future plans to go with upgraded wheels. How low is the drop the majority of you are seeing? Seems like the ride quality is not suffering which is a HUGE plus!

Thanks guys!
Old 07-24-02, 10:51 AM
  #11  
tmy727
Rookie
 
tmy727's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: California
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Here's my 2 cents:

2 Years ago,
I replaced my stock springs for a set of INTRAX (1'75 inch drop) and my 2 front shocks to KYB..... but I left the rear shocks stock. The stance was low and perfect with my 18" MHT V10's - Pirelli P7000 Supertouring. The ride was still soft, but a little bouncy. Unfortunately, the INTRAX turned out to be defective and they were recalling all LS400 sets.

I ended up replacing them with a set of EIBACH's (1' inch drop). The ride remained the same, but the gap between my fender and wheel was horrible !!! It's like "Why bother dropping?" To me.... it looked worse than stock. The shocks seemed to wear very fast - 1) could be that mine were old ... or 2) OEM shocks were not designed to handle the pressure and performance springs ... or 3) BOTH.

1 Year ago,
Anyhow, I replaced all 4 shocks with Tokiko Blue's. The ride is more noticably stiffer, but handles very well. It's a little bumpy on bad road conditions, but still beautifully smooth on decent roads. My brothers BMW with 17's are just as bumpy, so I think my ride is common when you stiffen up your suspension and go with low profiles. I kinda got used to it.... The stance seemed a slight lower, but I would prefer it 1/2 lower all around. Also, the rear seems higher than the fronts... hmm.. weird.


Nothing fancy, but here are the specs:

* 1990 LS400
* Completely White Pearl
* Clear fronts w/Hyper Plasma
* [HAD] Clr/Red Rears ... but were also defective from Procarparts.com. They're crediting my account.
* Levoc Stainless Pedal Set
* Tokiko Blue
* Eibach Pro
* 18" MHT V10's

FUTURE,
Repolish wheels
Retint windows 1 shade all around
Slotted rotors all around
Low-key body kit
Old 07-24-02, 11:26 AM
  #12  
GA400
Lead Lap

 
GA400's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Georgia
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by tmy727
Here's my 2 cents:

2 Years ago,
I replaced my stock springs for a set of INTRAX (1'75 inch drop) and my 2 front shocks to KYB..... but I left the rear shocks stock. The stance was low and perfect with my 18" MHT V10's - Pirelli P7000 Supertouring. The ride was still soft, but a little bouncy. Unfortunately, the INTRAX turned out to be defective and they were recalling all LS400 sets.

I ended up replacing them with a set of EIBACH's (1' inch drop). The ride remained the same, but the gap between my fender and wheel was horrible !!! It's like "Why bother dropping?" To me.... it looked worse than stock. The shocks seemed to wear very fast - 1) could be that mine were old ... or 2) OEM shocks were not designed to handle the pressure and performance springs ... or 3) BOTH.

1 Year ago,
Anyhow, I replaced all 4 shocks with Tokiko Blue's. The ride is more noticably stiffer, but handles very well. It's a little bumpy on bad road conditions, but still beautifully smooth on decent roads. My brothers BMW with 17's are just as bumpy, so I think my ride is common when you stiffen up your suspension and go with low profiles. I kinda got used to it.... The stance seemed a slight lower, but I would prefer it 1/2 lower all around. Also, the rear seems higher than the fronts... hmm.. weird.


Nothing fancy, but here are the specs:

* 1990 LS400
* Completely White Pearl
* Clear fronts w/Hyper Plasma
* [HAD] Clr/Red Rears ... but were also defective from Procarparts.com. They're crediting my account.
* Levoc Stainless Pedal Set
* Tokiko Blue
* Eibach Pro
* 18" MHT V10's

FUTURE,
Repolish wheels
Retint windows 1 shade all around
Slotted rotors all around
Low-key body kit
sounds like you have one sharp ride! any pics on the web or in the galleries here?

GA400
Old 07-24-02, 11:33 AM
  #13  
retrodrive
Search Function Inc.
 
retrodrive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: California
Posts: 4,819
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

Mine is lowered with stock wheels right now but I have bigger sideskirts and it makes the car look even lower.
Old 07-24-02, 12:41 PM
  #14  
TRM04
Driver
 
TRM04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: CVille, IL
Posts: 187
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by retrodrive
Mine is lowered with stock wheels right now but I have bigger sideskirts and it makes the car look even lower.
Show some pics! Please!

Thanks
Old 07-24-02, 03:41 PM
  #15  
retrodrive
Search Function Inc.
 
retrodrive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: California
Posts: 4,819
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Default

they are on the side but here is a side view...




Quick Reply: good/bad praise on tokico's..



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:06 PM.