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Old 08-18-08, 08:26 AM
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Here's one last question...Why would the dealership only recommend to change just the timing belt and water pump? Actually, Clear choice did the same...I called another place a buddy recommended and they would do: Timing belt, water pump, thremostat, crank shaft seal, coolant & drive belt for $850 (Plus $150 for both pulleys).

Why wouldn't you change the pulleys, idler, seals since youre down there? It's the cheaper option (not by much) but does this make sense?

So the question is:

What parts would you guys recommend be changed?

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Old 08-18-08, 10:22 AM
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On my non-interference 94LS my first T-Belt wasn't until 168,000+ (when the fan bracket support bearing failed) & I just went ahead & changed everything that was spun by both the T belt & serpentine/accessory belt.

Felt I owed it to her.
Old 08-18-08, 06:45 PM
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Both times the shop offered to either do the timing belt only or the full replacement option (water pump, seals, etc.). He said it was totally up to me and explained that many of the parts had to be removed and putting them back on would likely be fine - my choice. I don't normally buy into replacing a part that is not defective. However, the engine components are different in that if one or more of those other parts fails later on then it will be costly to tear the engine apart again to replace them.

Either way it is your choice. I chose to replace all the parts you mentioned since the front of the engine would be torn apart. If your budget will allow it why not have the peace of mind? At least that was my thinking.
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Yeah not being able to bring in your own parts seems strange. I would tell them you want to see what they are putting in yours I mean if you are paying for Lexus OEM they need to show you
Old 08-20-08, 12:25 AM
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Steveski,

My thinking was do I really want to pay for what would be essentially a 2nd timing belt change worth of labor because I chinced out on a $45 pulley?

Davenport charges you dealer list for parts installed (despite the fact they pay less)
& I was told that is policy regardless of if you show up with parts in hand.
My parents 2 LS vehicles have been serviced on several occasions at the Plano location.

Great people, but that policy sux. Bottom line.
Old 08-20-08, 09:32 AM
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Yeah that is not a great policy since Lexus OEM parts can be had at such lower prices. I agree that being cheap could cost more in the log run especially if a part fails deeper inside the front of the engine like a seal, etc. That is why I went ahead and had them change all parts, etc. for peace of mind.
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Originally Posted by damon
Steveski,

My thinking was do I really want to pay for what would be essentially a 2nd timing belt change worth of labor because I chinced out on a $45 pulley?

Davenport charges you dealer list for parts installed (despite the fact they pay less)
& I was told that is policy regardless of if you show up with parts in hand.
My parents 2 LS vehicles have been serviced on several occasions at the Plano location.

Great people, but that policy sux. Bottom line.
Thanks for the info...I didn't know that...I was there at the Plano location this morning as I had to get an alignment...I've pretty much done all the research I can do...I'm not sure how long water pumps last, but that seems to be the culprit if it does fail..that and bearings...

Question: How long do water pumps normally last?

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Old 08-20-08, 06:11 PM
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Many of the American cars I have owned had water pumps that failed after 50,000 miles. My buddy has an STS that just turned 75,000 miles. His WP failed

With Lexus OEM equipment I bet it would not be uncommon to last well over 150,000 miles. Of course keeping the radiator fluid clean per service guidelines is critical to get the best longevity though.
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Just got mine done yesterday at the Lexus dealer in Jackson, MS. Timing belt, water pump, seals, gaskets, etc. $924 My car has 158k and it had never been changed.

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Originally Posted by DentGuyLS
Just got mine done yesterday at the Lexus dealer in Jackson, MS. Timing belt, water pump, seals, gaskets, etc. $924 My car has 158k and it had never been changed.

Jason
Great price...Did they change both pulleys as well? Hell, I need to drive to Jackson...

I'll be doing mine in a couple of weeks at the dealership...All in it'll be $1265...
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$924 is a great price - so is $1,265 ain't bad either especially since they are local and you could keep an eye on them
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Originally Posted by rrj_gamz
Great price...Did they change both pulleys as well? Hell, I need to drive to Jackson...

I'll be doing mine in a couple of weeks at the dealership...All in it'll be $1265...
You know, I'm not 100% sure if the did or not, it wasnt on the reciept and I didnt know to ask. What pulleys are they?
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Originally Posted by DentGuyLS
You know, I'm not 100% sure if the did or not, it wasnt on the reciept and I didnt know to ask. What pulleys are they?
Trust me I didn't know what to ask for until I got on this site...

IIRC, its the Idler and Tensioner pulleys...
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Finally broke down and put my baby in the shop today to get this done...I was able to find a place a friend recommended called Tokyo Town (yeah I know the name is kind of cheesy) who have guys that worked for Lexus...All in, it'll be just under $1100 for timing belt, wp, both pulleys, therm., coolant, crank/cam seals, and a drive belt...Will get her back tomorrow...
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