Has this happened to you?
10-29-16, 12:56 PM
#1
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Has this happened to you?
So I visited my friendly Lexus dealer today to address issues. Got a 2016 ES loaner for family to shop. We all get in the car and I push the button. The dash lights up but car didn't start. Right there in the service bay!! Ok, I turn off and try again FOUR times, no cranking, no joy.... My family looks at me and is wondering WT... Are you kidding me??
I am ready to step out and complain to the tech when I notice a little green light "EV"! I was in a ES350h and it was deathly silent on start up. Even turning on the AC did not cause the engine to kick in right away!! Needless to say, I was feeling foolish
. I think I saw the Reception techs exchanging smiles (laughs) when I pulled out of the service bay 
I am ready to step out and complain to the tech when I notice a little green light "EV"! I was in a ES350h and it was deathly silent on start up. Even turning on the AC did not cause the engine to kick in right away!! Needless to say, I was feeling foolish
. I think I saw the Reception techs exchanging smiles (laughs) when I pulled out of the service bay
10-29-16, 03:12 PM
#2
I rented an Audi at Dublin Airport. I pulled out of the rental area, stopped at the very first traffic light & the car shut down. I was very confused, and a little hungover from partying in Dublin.
I then started to panic..horns started blasting behind me. Eventually I had a lightbulb moment & stomped on the gas pedal, and off we went.
Automatic shutdown, gave me a panic attack
I then started to panic..horns started blasting behind me. Eventually I had a lightbulb moment & stomped on the gas pedal, and off we went.
Automatic shutdown, gave me a panic attack
10-29-16, 07:37 PM
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Instructor
Same thing happend to be on a business trip rental. I was in an BMW X5. While stopped at the first stoplight the engine turned off. I was like what the heck? Then i realize it must be a start stop tech. My bmw was not a hybrid but still had this option to save some gas. I just turn off that feature.
10-29-16, 08:04 PM
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I've not yet driven a hybrid or EV car. I can say they are dangerous in parking lots walking into or out of a store. You just don't hear anything if they come up behind you.
10-30-16, 05:57 AM
#6
Instructor
When you hit the start button there is no indication of a change in state. You put the thing in gear and proceed to your destination...cool, but so weird.
10-30-16, 07:13 AM
#7
Lexus Fanatic
???? My wife's 2012 CT200H has a noise generator that sounds like a nicely tuned engine humming along. When it's not in drive, then yes, there's no noise, but as soon as "R" or "D" is selected the noise generator kicks in. From what I can see, most manufacturers do this. UK requires it by law. NHTSA in the US is also passing laws to ensure all car makers do this as well, even though it's already implemented in car makers EV vehicles voluntarily..
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10-30-16, 07:17 AM
#8
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Again, on my wif'es CT200, when you hit the "start" button the button light goes out and "ready" indicates on the dash to tell you the car is running.
10-30-16, 08:08 AM
#9
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This was my first time driving a hybrid, and I had no inkling the loaner would be one. In fact the dash looked different with a charge indicator in place of a tachometer and the lights you mention were working. But in those seconds I was attempting to start the car, none of these differences registered in my brain.
10-30-16, 08:32 AM
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???? My wife's 2012 CT200H has a noise generator that sounds like a nicely tuned engine humming along. When it's not in drive, then yes, there's no noise, but as soon as "R" or "D" is selected the noise generator kicks in. From what I can see, most manufacturers do this. UK requires it by law. NHTSA in the US is also passing laws to ensure all car makers do this as well, even though it's already implemented in car makers EV vehicles voluntarily..
10-30-16, 09:29 AM
#11
The 2016 ES300h does have the noise generator. Its annoying for the driver (me) when you have your windows open, but I can see the safety benefit. Personally as the driver, I wish the annoying noise was not there. The serene quietness of driving in electric mode is quite nice.
Not sure when U.S. law will require such noise generators on all hybrid/electrics, but Lexus has adopted it.
Someone commented that there is no indication of when you actually are in ignition/engine-on state. There is actually some indication based on what shows on the steering wheel dash area, but you have to be used to what to see on the dash. It is not intuitive. I can see how one could be quite confused with a loaner for a day!
Not sure when U.S. law will require such noise generators on all hybrid/electrics, but Lexus has adopted it.
Someone commented that there is no indication of when you actually are in ignition/engine-on state. There is actually some indication based on what shows on the steering wheel dash area, but you have to be used to what to see on the dash. It is not intuitive. I can see how one could be quite confused with a loaner for a day!
10-30-16, 10:49 AM
#12
Lexus Fanatic
Interesting, the last ES300h I drove was a 13 and it didn't have the sound generator.
10-30-16, 12:26 PM
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10-30-16, 02:34 PM
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10-30-16, 03:40 PM
#15
Instructor
NSX is the same, no indication of successful startup...just a note that says "hybrid system on" would be enough for me. I sure hope engine simulator noises are not gonna happen. a Microsoft Windows jingle would be more than a enough