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Whoa, that's pretty crazy! Thanks for the link, Greg! It also answered another question I was wondering about, whether or not there is a way to monitor the health of the battery pack when inspecting a 600hL. Apparently, there is not.
What I can't figure out is why there are so few 2009-2012 models on the market. The market is flooded with 2007 and 2008 model years...perhaps those indeed are the problem years that are getting unloaded. Then again, maybe Lexus sold less and less LSes in each subsequent year of the 4th-gen and that limits the number of 2009s-2012s available for resale. Strange that I see more 2013-2015 facelifted model years for sale than 2009-2012.
Oooooh! Very interesting. Thank you, Arvid! Lexus of Europe appears to have more faith in the hybrid system than Lexus of North America. I wish there was a consistent/common global policy for all 600h/600hL. Still nice knowing that there is a Lexus-sanctioned method for inspecting the health of the hybrid system and batteries.
The reason there are more 07-08 is because there are more of them in general. Remember the recession hit in 08, so sales of flagship cars took a huge hit after that.
2011-12 people are still recovering from financial crisis. 13’ has a new facelift that boost sales a little bit and after that continue its downward trend.
When they designed the LS400, chief engineer Ichiro Suzuki sought to develop an all-new design, aiming to surpass rival American and European flagship sedans in specific target areas, including aerodynamics, cabin quietness, overall top speed, and fuel efficiency. Now all those advantages LS had are all slowly disappearing. Can’t compete with Tesla for speed and fuel sufficiency, BMW 7 and Mercedes S550 are pretty quiet too. In terms of the looks, I don’t mind the front of LS, but people often told me LS is an old man’s car.
2011-12 people are still recovering from financial crisis. 13’ has a new facelift that boost sales a little bit and after that continue its downward trend.
When they designed the LS400, chief engineer Ichiro Suzuki sought to develop an all-new design, aiming to surpass rival American and European flagship sedans in specific target areas, including aerodynamics, cabin quietness, overall top speed, and fuel efficiency. Now all those advantages LS had are all slowly disappearing. Can’t compete with Tesla for speed and fuel sufficiency, BMW 7 and Mercedes S550 are pretty quiet too. In terms of the looks, I don’t mind the front of LS, but people often told me LS is an old man’s car.
Call me vain but that's partly why I originally wanted a 460L. Besides the LWB, it also looked sportier and more modern. While I still love the qualities of the LS430, it does seem more like an "old man's car" in the styling department but not as bad as the 01-03 (no offense intended toward owners of those years).
Do you have any pics of your '11? I see so many black-on-black combos. That's just too dark and depressing to me. I wouldn't mind a white/red/black/silver exterior with light gray leather and the gray wood interior.
Black on black is the most popular choice among new buyers and is easier to resell. I think black represents a little bit power, authority and stately feel. Don’t you want to pick the color that all Yakuza bosses have for their cars? Ha Ha
I never had black car before and just happened to have a black car this time. Mine is startlight black metallic (back with metallic sparkle). It adds some vitality to the black and I like it.
Black on black is the most popular choice among new buyers and is easier to resell. I think black represents a little bit power, authority and stately feel. Don’t you want to pick the color that all Yakuza bosses have for their cars? Ha Ha
I never had black car before and just happened to have a black car this time. Mine is startlight black metallic (back with metallic sparkle). It adds some vitality to the black and I like it.
Thanks for the laugh, 2v1g. The 460L is one of the few cars that I would seriously consider having in black (exterior). The profile looks so sleek and classy from a 3/4 rear or side view. As for the interior, I need a little contrast. Is it hard to keep your metallic black swirl free?
Thanks for the laugh, 2v1g. The 460L is one of the few cars that I would seriously consider having in black (exterior). The profile looks so sleek and classy from a 3/4 rear or side view. As for the interior, I need a little contrast. Is it hard to keep your metallic black swirl free?
No. Obsidian black is more easy to see the swirl than start light black. The sparkles in the start light black make swirl less visible.
No. Obsidian black is more easy to see the swirl than start light black. The sparkles in the start light black make swirl less visible.
Black leather is easy to show wear off
You described it perfectly...the reason I don't like black interiors is because they dont age too well. After a few years all of the black interiors I've seen just look so old and beat up.
I've had a couple cars with black interiors I kept a long time. With care they age just fine.
leather driver seat is easy to show wear out on the edge of left side due to heavy weight rubbing when you get out. I am 125lbs, but I will hold my steering and almost lift my bum when i get out of my car. My car seat looked the same 5 years after I bought it
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