LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017) Discussion topics related to the current flagship models LS460, LS460L and LS600H

Major shake while braking but not a rotor problem says my mechanic?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-24-16, 12:30 AM
  #1  
sarantis
Driver
Thread Starter
 
sarantis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: CA
Posts: 84
Received 7 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Major shake while braking but not a rotor problem says my mechanic?

So for the last year or so, my 2007 LS has been shaking really bad breaking from about 65-75 mph. I thought for sure it would be warped rotors. Took it into my mechanic and they said the rotors were perfectly straight (and there was still a lot of break pads left). Said it could be the tires and/or wheels?

Anyone ever heard of that? I wished it was the rotors then at least I could get it fixed.

Also, my air suspension makes clunky sounds but they said everything looks great there. Sheeesh. The 2007 only has 49k miles on it.

Any help would be appreciated.body{zoom:200%!important;**
Old 09-24-16, 01:15 AM
  #2  
jfattibe
Driver
 
jfattibe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: MA
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I would think if it's during braking that it would be something with the brakes ?? Do you know how many miles are on the front brakes and rotors ? And how did your mechanic know they were "perfectly straight" ?? Odds are its your rotors, I would start there. You can buy rotors and pads from Rock Auto from $150 - $200, they're easy to do.
Old 09-24-16, 03:53 AM
  #3  
superdenso
Instructor
 
superdenso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: INACTIVE
Posts: 754
Received 24 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jfattibe
I would think if it's during braking that it would be something with the brakes ?? Do you know how many miles are on the front brakes and rotors ? And how did your mechanic know they were "perfectly straight" ?? Odds are its your rotors, I would start there. You can buy rotors and pads from Rock Auto from $150 - $200, they're easy to do.
find some rotors and pads from someplace other than Toyo/Lexus. Recommendation: Akebono and Centric/StopTech
Old 09-24-16, 05:10 AM
  #4  
tlk2megoos
Driver
 
tlk2megoos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: of Confusion
Posts: 76
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Control arms good? Inner/outer tie rods good? I would check those next.
Old 09-24-16, 07:16 AM
  #5  
sdwtchlvr
Intermediate
iTrader: (1)
 
sdwtchlvr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: CA
Posts: 419
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Get a second opinion.
Old 09-24-16, 07:49 PM
  #6  
roadfrog
Lexus Fanatic
 
roadfrog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: BC Canada
Posts: 5,371
Received 505 Likes on 383 Posts
Default

I have the same issue. My rotors were replaced and I still have the shakes.
Old 09-25-16, 04:56 AM
  #7  
Doublebase
Pole Position
 
Doublebase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,560
Received 352 Likes on 243 Posts
Default

Well you can check a couple of things (if the rotors are straight and were measured properly with a dial indicator).

I'd probably start with the hub...check the surface, make sure there is no rust buildup, perhaps try rotating the rotor's position on that hub. Then I'd check the wheel bearing for play, if it's loose it will cause some movement upon braking (sometimes). Next check every suspension component for play in the front end...control arms, tie rods, ball joints...anything that can move upon the braking force.

It could be the rear brakes as well...they could be warped. Another thing to consider is a buildup of brake pad material on the rotor that can cause a pulsation.

These are heavy cars...there's so much stress placed on the front end when braking...there's so many thing it could be, but rotor's are definitely the number one culprit IMO.
Old 09-25-16, 07:43 AM
  #8  
Kennyr44
Lead Lap
 
Kennyr44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Co
Posts: 722
Received 59 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

When this happens to me with a car I put 4 new rotors on and go from there.
Old 09-28-16, 12:56 PM
  #9  
sarantis
Driver
Thread Starter
 
sarantis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: CA
Posts: 84
Received 7 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Sorry for the late response. I will definitely get a second opinion. The auto shop is great but no one's perfect. I just hate having issues that aren't cut and dry and I've got two of them affecting the ride which is part of the reason I bought this car in the first place. Thanks for the responses everyone.
Old 12-27-18, 04:23 PM
  #10  
mambo619
Rookie
 
mambo619's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: CA
Posts: 87
Received 10 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Reviving from the dead, in case any one else has this issue. I have this issue as well. for me, it seems to be the bushings have gone bad on my lower control arms. Make sure you get them checked out as well.
Old 12-30-18, 01:34 AM
  #11  
DriverSS
Rookie
 
DriverSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Tx
Posts: 69
Received 21 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Control arms are a common issue. Major weak point on the LS. You should be having them checked every 60-70K. That's not to say they break, the bushings just deteriorate that quickly. And they need to be "replaced" according to the shop. My right side arm needed "replacing" at 135K when Lexus did the last recall on my 2008 LS460 SWB. Yeah right... looked it over, the bushings were soft but not gone, there was a bit of movement but that was it. I kept a eye on them, looked them over every oil change, they never really went downhill any more.. If I'd experienced vibrations or bad tire wear they woulda been replaced though. I had 50K+ more miles on those same control arms when another car hit me and totaled it... ymmv.

Last edited by DriverSS; 12-30-18 at 01:41 AM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
kphu
GX - 1st Gen (2004-2009)
26
10-12-23 05:39 PM
SpmMorrow
IS F (2008-2014)
8
08-28-12 05:44 AM
RA073123
RX - 1st Gen (1999-2003)
6
09-05-08 02:53 AM
Kharizma
Suspension and Brakes
12
06-20-07 11:53 AM
DaJark
Suspension and Brakes
9
10-16-06 06:16 PM



Quick Reply: Major shake while braking but not a rotor problem says my mechanic?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:05 AM.