Lexus 600hl Hybrid System Failure
06-19-16, 01:28 PM
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They're out there, and there's more and more companies producing them and cashing in on the opportunity. I've researched this and found that replacing these packs is actually quite easy and straightforward. The hardest part of the work is the sheer weight of these packs and muscling them out and into the vehicle..
06-19-16, 02:29 PM
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OP, reading in between your posts looks like you had the same exact issue first time. Did that happened while on the road or before hitting the road?. Any how, I can only assume technician missed proper diagnosis.
There is another thread on hybrid battery failure where member Arvid made some good points on LS600 hybrid system. He is to the point and technical.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...y-failure.html
On a different topic, I don't even use ebay batteries on my flash lights.......forget about any ebay parts getting into any of my cars....
There is another thread on hybrid battery failure where member Arvid made some good points on LS600 hybrid system. He is to the point and technical.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...y-failure.html
On a different topic, I don't even use ebay batteries on my flash lights.......forget about any ebay parts getting into any of my cars....
06-19-16, 05:49 PM
#33
They're out there, and there's more and more companies producing them and cashing in on the opportunity. I've researched this and found that replacing these packs is actually quite easy and straightforward. The hardest part of the work is the sheer weight of these packs and muscling them out and into the vehicle..
Here are a couple of examples:
http://www.dormanproducts.com/pages/...rid/index.aspx
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/hybrid-battery-pack
Prius battery packs can be had for 500 dollars and one for a chevy is about 800
Here are a couple of examples:
http://www.dormanproducts.com/pages/...rid/index.aspx
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/hybrid-battery-pack
Prius battery packs can be had for 500 dollars and one for a chevy is about 800
Then, however, I learned (via Arvid) that as tempting as it would be to extrapolate from Prius to 600h, the battery packs are constructed differently, with cells on the 600 battery being riveted, making individual replacement much harder
. Satiger referenced Arvid's post, with a link to a detailed report (which, funny enough, I had loaded years ago but hadn't read in detail).Anyway, it may take longer for there to be aftermarket options for the 600 (Prius and Camry demand is so much higher), but hopefully we'll get there.
EDIT: I had forgotten this! http://www.geek.com/news/toyota-deal...st-10-1616007/
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02-26-20, 05:49 AM
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I had both the Check Hybrid System, engine and VSC warning lights. After trying a new battery, disconnecting the isolation plug re-plugging in, all kinds of things, nothing worked. I notice the hybrid battery coolant was low, so I topped it up. perhaps the hybrid batteries were overheating. Not seen the messages since.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
02-26-20, 08:51 PM
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I've had the 'Check Hybrid System' light come on but the car drove fine; warning did not appear after I restarted the car. Took it to an Indy and they pulled the codes and said the "engine failed to start in a timely manner" reset the code and I believe cleaned the MAF or something. Issue did not come back.
When the 12v battery was dying I was on the PCH and floored the throttle and the car performed a shutdown sequence similar to the one described. I pulled over and rebooted the car; then gingerly drove it home and sourced a Bosch battery the next day from Pep Boys for about $220; transferred the little sensor from the old to the new and was off to the races. Knock on wood the car has run fine since.
+1 on both checking the connections for the 12v battery (they were somewhat awkward to set) as well as the coolant for the hybrid battery. These are somewhat unicorn cars but if you have a local repair place that specializes in Hybrid cars I would think they would have more experience troubleshooting as the system works very similarly to the other Toyota Hybrids; whereas the parts are different.
When the 12v battery was dying I was on the PCH and floored the throttle and the car performed a shutdown sequence similar to the one described. I pulled over and rebooted the car; then gingerly drove it home and sourced a Bosch battery the next day from Pep Boys for about $220; transferred the little sensor from the old to the new and was off to the races. Knock on wood the car has run fine since.
+1 on both checking the connections for the 12v battery (they were somewhat awkward to set) as well as the coolant for the hybrid battery. These are somewhat unicorn cars but if you have a local repair place that specializes in Hybrid cars I would think they would have more experience troubleshooting as the system works very similarly to the other Toyota Hybrids; whereas the parts are different.
04-27-20, 06:08 PM
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I've had the 'Check Hybrid System' light come on but the car drove fine; warning did not appear after I restarted the car. Took it to an Indy and they pulled the codes and said the "engine failed to start in a timely manner" reset the code and I believe cleaned the MAF or something. Issue did not come back.
When the 12v battery was dying I was on the PCH and floored the throttle and the car performed a shutdown sequence similar to the one described. I pulled over and rebooted the car; then gingerly drove it home and sourced a Bosch battery the next day from Pep Boys for about $220; transferred the little sensor from the old to the new and was off to the races. Knock on wood the car has run fine since.
+1 on both checking the connections for the 12v battery (they were somewhat awkward to set) as well as the coolant for the hybrid battery. These are somewhat unicorn cars but if you have a local repair place that specializes in Hybrid cars I would think they would have more experience troubleshooting as the system works very similarly to the other Toyota Hybrids; whereas the parts are different.
When the 12v battery was dying I was on the PCH and floored the throttle and the car performed a shutdown sequence similar to the one described. I pulled over and rebooted the car; then gingerly drove it home and sourced a Bosch battery the next day from Pep Boys for about $220; transferred the little sensor from the old to the new and was off to the races. Knock on wood the car has run fine since.
+1 on both checking the connections for the 12v battery (they were somewhat awkward to set) as well as the coolant for the hybrid battery. These are somewhat unicorn cars but if you have a local repair place that specializes in Hybrid cars I would think they would have more experience troubleshooting as the system works very similarly to the other Toyota Hybrids; whereas the parts are different.
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2007 Rx400 check hybrid system - coming to complete stop
My daughter's car just did this... 5 o'clock traffic. check hybrid system light comes on followed by all warning lights. Can't go anywhere. No power steering, no power anything. What's going on??? 2007 lexus rx400. Wait about 15 min and it'll start back up and go but this is dangerous!!! No warning whatsoever!!!
I have a 2008 600hl. It showed Hybrid system failure and I took it to the dealer last week. They said that the hybrid system charges well but the issue seems to be 12V battery. They replaced that for $550. I got the car back and drove for 1 day, it stopped again at a major red light. This was a dead stop on Friday 5 pm peak hour traffic. My little daughter was sitting behind and so many cars came close to hitting us which made me mad at Lexus. Luckily I called cops and then they gave protection till it was towed.
All dashboard lights got on and it would show the following:
- Check Hybrid System
- Check Brake System
- Check VSC
My questions are as follows:
- Did the dealer do the proper repair when they changed 12v battery since the same issue happened last week?
- If I understand correctly from the blogs, Check Hybrid System is mainly a cell or module failure. If they at the dealership were able to charge the Hybrid System, does it mean it was working? Their health check showed 75%
- Since the car stopped abruptly at a stop light, if we were hit from behind, does Lexus/dealership have any liability? My major issue was that my daughter sitting behind does not get hurt.
- If I am forced to buy a battery pack, should we but it aftermarket or from the dealer?
Appreciate your help/response.
Regards
RN
All dashboard lights got on and it would show the following:
- Check Hybrid System
- Check Brake System
- Check VSC
My questions are as follows:
- Did the dealer do the proper repair when they changed 12v battery since the same issue happened last week?
- If I understand correctly from the blogs, Check Hybrid System is mainly a cell or module failure. If they at the dealership were able to charge the Hybrid System, does it mean it was working? Their health check showed 75%
- Since the car stopped abruptly at a stop light, if we were hit from behind, does Lexus/dealership have any liability? My major issue was that my daughter sitting behind does not get hurt.
- If I am forced to buy a battery pack, should we but it aftermarket or from the dealer?
Appreciate your help/response.
Regards
RN
12-08-23, 09:35 AM
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Get the 12 volt battery tested.
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