Luxofreak

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...anamera-report

greg3852

If true I'm disappointed. I'd rather have the luxurious cruiser than a sportier feel. That's the whole reason I bought the car. Power is great but I want to just relax in this car. If I want a fast sporty car I'll buy one. I hope they don't go down that road. If they do, looks like I'll be shopping elsewhere.

Toys4RJill

I agree, it should be a high end luxo cruiser.

NickTee

The Panamera is a "high end luxo cruiser."

CRowe14

I'd like to believe that Lexus will be able to maintain the luxo-cruiser feel while enhancing the drive train.
I'm not an auto engineer, but I'd assume that the suspension would be stiffer to accommodate the torque in a manner to keep the vehicle feeling tight.
I do hope that Lexus does not loose sight of the plush, smooth ride the LS is known and loved for.
But one thing is certain, it's a beautiful car.

CEOEngr

Has any one seen a spy shot of this new LS? It seems that Lexus is keeping it under tight wraps.

SW17LS

The new suspension setups are so good I have faith they can deliver a great ride while making the car sharper and lighter feeling. The new platforms are so rigid they can deliver excellent handling while providing a really nice ride. The 4GS on AVS suspension is a good example.

We will see. I expect the car to start at $85-90k as a LWB only and optioned easily hit 100 to keep pace with the segment, which puts it out of my range unless they have great lease deals (I don't see myself spending more than $1000 a month on lease payments which I spend now), so my guess is I will have my 460 for a long while...which is why I got it when I did.

Hoovey689

iTrader: (16)

This article is from Jul 23, 2014.

As it stands this was posted in Car Chat the time of

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...017-model.html

7milesout

The question here is, who here at Club Lexus is going to be purchasing my car new, that I will purchase used? Because I'm going to want to help you spec it out, as well as give you a list of do's and don'ts with the car. Where you can go, how many miles you can put on the car. You know ... that kind of stuff. You will need to wait and purchase a 2018, because all of the enginnering improvements needed on the '17 will be implemented into the '18 model.

I personally don't care if Lexus builds the new LS to compete with the Nissan GTR, or to compete with the Mercedes land yacht. I will not shop elsewhere because I do NOT want the break-down & repair hassles associated with owning a Merc, Beemer or Audi.


7milesout

CRowe14

Smart planning and good choice.
Do you foresee the remodeled LS in your future purchase plans, in the next...say...4-6 years?

7:
In a nutshell, that's practically my exact mindset!

dal20402

This is old news, as noted.

In order to be taken seriously by the car press they *have* to say they are targeting sportier cars. Otherwise the "first look" articles will just all say "HURR DURR OLD MAN CAR HA HA." Whether the car actually will be sportier... jury is still out. The LS has a vocal customer base that wants quiet and cushy.

There may be some active suspension wizardry like Mercedes is using that allows the car to play both roles at the push of a button, at least in air-suspended cars.

caha14

Funny you say that...

Almost two decades ago, I had the opportunity to see this... On a 1994 LS400, no less! If they offer this option to compete with the S-class, as I expect they will/should, I expect their execution to be flawless.

http://www.thecarconnection.com/tips...-project-sound

SW17LS

I don't know. My fear will be that they will push the styling and the sporty edge too far for me as a buyer. I want a good looking, elegant highway cruiser. I may wind up driving this for a long time, keeping it in the family and eventually getting an S Class for myself or something. Who knows, but I fully intend to buy this out of the lease at the end and keep it.I only leased it for the tax implications.

Take the GS, I loved my 2013 GS, it was just interesting enough but still elegant, loved the way the car drove and all, but the refreshed 2016 GS is IMHO over the top. I do however like the ES refresh, so we'll see.

superdenso

Love it or hate it the LS's handling is unsophisticated and could use some refinement. Further, the 5.0v8 would have made the LS comparable to the Germans when they pulled out the turbos 5 or 6 years ago. The low US sales numbers suggest a global product is better for business.

SW17LS

Just as a point of clarification...the LS is the #3 vehicle in the segment, it outsells the A8 and the XJ, and before the redesign it traded the #2 spot with the 7 Series.

Low sales figures are just the reality in this segment now. Even the S Class only does maybe 40-50% of the volume it used to.