go from 01 GS430 to 09 LS460?
11-22-15, 10:09 AM
#17
Lexus Fanatic
You just have to give that disclaimer when you advise people. For instance I know you and I have talked about chinese ball joints and even chinese bootleg snow tires. A lot of people (I would say most) who buy a car like this, even a used one, are going to want to put OEM or quality brand name aftermarket parts on it...so telling them parts are "cheap" and a radiator is $60 etc etc without that disclaimer is doing them a disservice.
FWIW, most, if not all parts I quoted are the same ones bought at Schucks, O'Reilly, NAPA, etc. Just at a cheaper price because you're buying directly from suppliers, etc. It's always "buyer beware" regardless. As for the tires, they're not "bootleg". They're made by Triangle Tire which is one of the largest tire companies in the world. http://www.triangle-tire.com/passenger/TR777.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Group
They're just a direct copy of the tread pattern found on the Michelin x-ice.
As for your comment about members wanting OEM.....I disagree. I think it's the opposite. Look at all the threads of those bemoaning the cost of OEM and looking for alternatives.
Regardless, I'm not being argumetative. I enjoy the exchanges. Also, there are times where I would definately stay OEM (as I stated with regards to the Denso spark plugs). I also stay with OEM oil filters as well as TGMO oil.
11-22-15, 10:29 AM
#18
Lexus Fanatic
We'll have to agree to disagree about the tires. If they're direct copies of the Michelins...they're bootleg tires.
11-22-15, 11:24 AM
#19
Lexus Test Driver
If the most important consideration is the car being "faster" then no, its not going to do it. What the LS is all about though, and what makes it superior to the GS is not "being faster", its the overall refinement, the size, the comfort, the smooth and quiet nature of the car.
The LS is a special car, having had several of them as well as several ES's and a GS, all of those cars have good attributes...but the LS is the quintessential Lexus.
The LS is a special car, having had several of them as well as several ES's and a GS, all of those cars have good attributes...but the LS is the quintessential Lexus.
Agreed. Having just drove it I think slotting that RC F engine in the LS would do WONDERS. 467hp delivering 450 lbs of torque starting at 2000 rpms would be phenomenal.
11-22-15, 12:24 PM
#20
Lexus Fanatic
I think we're just quibbling over the term "bootleg". Bootleg means that there's an illegal infringement on copyright. Copyrights expire. The design of the TR777 is an older one. What I think you have more an issue with is the quality of the tire in question. Another example of copied designs (done legally), are small honda engines (those in lawnmowers etc). Kipor for example, uses copied Honda engines in their Gensets. Legally, because the copyright expired.
11-22-15, 12:35 PM
#21
Lexus Fanatic
I prefer to buy products that come from manufacturers who create their own designs. Legal or illegal.
11-22-15, 02:21 PM
#22
Lexus Fanatic
11-22-15, 02:24 PM
#23
Lexus Fanatic
I realize you're just kidding, but there's a difference between somethings like the LS and a bootleg copy. There are Chinese bootleg copies of cars that are pretty hilariously blatant
11-22-15, 04:41 PM
#24
Lexus Fanatic
11-23-15, 01:25 PM
#25
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Well, I didn't get the LS. I put a deposit on it (which was refundable) and drove 2 hours with a bank check so they knew up front there wouldn't be a financing issue. I was told a price a couple weeks before and figured I could get them down a bit when I got there and saw the car. The car was near perfect, a couple of rashes that, after I pointed out, they had their detailer wet sand and polish. That should have been done before the car even went up for sale. Anyway, I was ready to pull the trigger on it. Bottom line, after being there all day, they weren't willing to go down on the price at all, not a penny. I just wanted them to do SOMETHING, even a couple hundred and I probably would have done it. Unless it was advertised as a no haggle price there's no way I'm paying asking price for a used car and it's dumb of them to expect that IMO. Told him to give me my deposit back, I'm out. Totally expected him to come back w/an offer or a phone call after I left but nope, nothing.
Last edited by boosteddsm; 11-23-15 at 06:19 PM.
11-23-15, 02:23 PM
#26
Wow, am shocked that they didn't concede something to you. I guess they must be selling everything on the lot these days. Either that or they have another buyer on the line.
Props to you though for not giving in. I don't think there are many people who would have the will power. Good job! There will be another car coming along.
Props to you though for not giving in. I don't think there are many people who would have the will power. Good job! There will be another car coming along.
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