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The German models yield quality raw materials. Their synergy vs. engineering intent is questionable. However Hyundai has to prove their quality level at least in materials. For instance, a Volvo has proven they build a car that can take impacts. I wasted a lot of time watching some junk yard guys trying to destroy an 850 just to see where it would break. That thing took whatever they could think of. And they thought of some strange impact conditions
The German models yield quality raw materials. Their synergy vs. engineering intent is questionable. However Hyundai has to prove their quality level at least in materials
As far as BMW materials, Agreed. Being impressed quickly wanes however, when you're dealing with horrendous mechanical issues. I'd rather have the lesser quality in the Hyundai, where they at least provide you with a 10 year warranty in case something breaks. That's where BMW fails, when they won't stand behind their "quality" craftsmanship.
speaking of consumer reports recent reliability test, Audi is the 3rd most reliable car brand period after lexus and toyota...something to think about.
if i didn't care about reliability, then my dream, maybach 62
I doubt Audi will stay there. Almost every year some brand "challenges" Toyota/Lexus only to quickly fall back. For several years it was Ford. Now it's Audi.
Years ago, CR did a really cool line graph of all major brands' reliability over the long term (it was at least 10 years). X axis was age in years and Y was number of problems reported. Each brand had a color-coded line. In the first few years, the gap was pretty small, although even then you had the Germans at the top and Honda/Toyota (and their premiums) at the bottom. Over time, all the other brands trended up and away with Honda/Toyota in a league of their own. But even within that league, the slope of the Honda/Acura line was significantly greater than the line of Toyota/Lexus.
Thats the Maxima concept car. The new Maxima bears no resemblance to that LOL
Oh, I saw that he typed concept (not sure if you're addressing me or R Z), but I still feel like, even if this is the direction the Nissan is headed regarding the Maxima's interior, regarding this color/finish scheme, its seems to be a bit much-to me anyway.
The interior of the new Maxima is pretty nice.
Completely revamped and nothing like the previous generation, though I'm not sure what to make of the exterior.
As far as BMW materials, Agreed. Being impressed quickly wanes however, when you're dealing with horrendous mechanical issues. I'd rather have the lesser quality in the Hyundai, where they at least provide you with a 10 year warranty in case something breaks. That's where BMW fails, when they won't stand behind their "quality" craftsmanship.
In my Hyundai / Kia experience, you will likely experience as many issues with a Hyundai / Kia as the run of the mill BMW. Hyundai / Kia draws you into the purchase with a 10 year warranty. That draw works. And trust me, you're going to need that warranty.
I'd rather take good care of my Toyota and have 3 / 36, than to have ANY Hyundai / Kia under any condition (assuming the condition was status quo of what it would have been with a Toyota), period.
10-31-15, 07:54 AM
(good to have brothers)
