What are some of Lexus innovations
#16
If you're paying 100k for a Lexus don't you want parts that aren't on a cheaper model? Just wondering. I guess I'm trying to understand from other peoples point of view. I do like looks, performance and tech. Reliabiltity is also important I just assume todays technology and the amount of testing they do that cars should pretty reliable but that is not always the case.
I had a 1990 toyota tarago that i only took to the dealer once to service. The rest I did the basic maintenance and it never broke! Had 250k on it until my dad traded it in.
I had a 1990 toyota tarago that i only took to the dealer once to service. The rest I did the basic maintenance and it never broke! Had 250k on it until my dad traded it in.
#17
Lead Lap
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It's also nice to have less costly and readily available parts made possible by spreading it across several models. My nearest Lexus dealer is a 90 minute drive away, doable, but an all day affair. It's nice to have a Toyota dealer/service in my town. Options for pricing and time spent. That's a good thing in my book.
#18
Lexus Fanatic
While Lexus has innovated many "firsts", I appreciate them for being a company that PERFECTS other's innovations. I prefer that because, while my 7 series BMW had many firsts, none of them were reliable or very well thought out (ie: "I-Drive). Lexus will take something another manufacturer has introduced and then perfect it and make it dead reliable. The down side is that some will consider Lexus to be a bit behind the times.
#19
Pole Position
If you will find the book The Relentless Pursuit, you'll know that before the LS400, the body styles of the other luxury sedans were boxy old style forms. Lexus introduced a new style, a new better performance, and a new way to drive in luxury without compromising a quiet driving experience.
As mentioned, I'll take my LS460 whether outdated or not compared to any of the other "luxury" vehicles on the road. Life in a Lexus is good!
As mentioned, I'll take my LS460 whether outdated or not compared to any of the other "luxury" vehicles on the road. Life in a Lexus is good!
#20
Lexus Champion
Others have posted about Lexus's ground-breaking innovations. It's easy enough to use Wikipedia and Google other sources to get a comprehensive list. Regardless of past accomplishments, it seems there's a common perception that Lexus hasn't continued to innovate or improve, resulting in other car makes not only closing the gap, but perhaps surpassing Lexus. Another perception is that the LS460, especially prior to 2013, had a somewhat bland appearance. I think "understated" is a better word.
A car is more than any single aspect, such as exterior and interior appearance, technological features, comfort, ride, handling, performance, craftsmanship, quality, and reliability. If you look at the LS, you'll find it's probably tops in reliability, and near or at the top in most other categories for a large luxury car. Arguably, you can come up with examples, some of which are more subjective than others, of a different make/model which is superior than the LS in some features, but depending on the weight you assign to these different categories, the LS could easily rank as the best overall.
Innovation is just one aspect of the whole picture and for me has a lower priority than reliability and some other categories. For example, I really like the presence, luxurious interior, and reputed performance of the Jag XJ, but concerns about reliability, rear seat headroom, ease of access, a few exterior styling miscues, and some features that seem more gimmicky and less durable (e.g. the pop-up transmission ****) than useful would make me reluctant to purchase it. I also think the super-aggressive design might simply look trendy and, eventually, dated.
This is why I like the relatively understated appearance of the LS. It manages to bridge the gap between traditional and modern styling, especially on the 2007-2012 model years. I prefer its more aerodynamic styling and appearance compared with the LS430 and LS400, although I think one could argue the latter two are more traditional. To use a suit analogy, the LS430 and LS400 remind me of Brooks Brothers with their center vents, the LS460, LS600h bring to mind a more modern, yet sill classic European suit with side vents. It's just an analogy, OK?
A car is more than any single aspect, such as exterior and interior appearance, technological features, comfort, ride, handling, performance, craftsmanship, quality, and reliability. If you look at the LS, you'll find it's probably tops in reliability, and near or at the top in most other categories for a large luxury car. Arguably, you can come up with examples, some of which are more subjective than others, of a different make/model which is superior than the LS in some features, but depending on the weight you assign to these different categories, the LS could easily rank as the best overall.
Innovation is just one aspect of the whole picture and for me has a lower priority than reliability and some other categories. For example, I really like the presence, luxurious interior, and reputed performance of the Jag XJ, but concerns about reliability, rear seat headroom, ease of access, a few exterior styling miscues, and some features that seem more gimmicky and less durable (e.g. the pop-up transmission ****) than useful would make me reluctant to purchase it. I also think the super-aggressive design might simply look trendy and, eventually, dated.
This is why I like the relatively understated appearance of the LS. It manages to bridge the gap between traditional and modern styling, especially on the 2007-2012 model years. I prefer its more aerodynamic styling and appearance compared with the LS430 and LS400, although I think one could argue the latter two are more traditional. To use a suit analogy, the LS430 and LS400 remind me of Brooks Brothers with their center vents, the LS460, LS600h bring to mind a more modern, yet sill classic European suit with side vents. It's just an analogy, OK?
Last edited by Gbp; 06-04-15 at 11:16 AM.
#21
Lexus - the pursuit of perfection. The innovation of reliability.
#22
If you're paying 100k for a Lexus don't you want parts that aren't on a cheaper model? Just wondering. I guess I'm trying to understand from other peoples point of view. I do like looks, performance and tech. Reliabiltity is also important I just assume todays technology and the amount of testing they do that cars should pretty reliable but that is not always the case.
I had a 1990 toyota tarago that i only took to the dealer once to service. The rest I did the basic maintenance and it never broke! Had 250k on it until my dad traded it in.
I had a 1990 toyota tarago that i only took to the dealer once to service. The rest I did the basic maintenance and it never broke! Had 250k on it until my dad traded it in.
#24
Lexus Fanatic
Not sure where you live, but in the US at least a Lexus priced at or over $100,000 is VERY rare. Its basically only a VERY loaded LS460L or an LS600hL. I would say nationwide perhaps 1 or 2 vehicles priced this way sell each month, if even that many.
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