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Old 05-05-15, 02:08 PM
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Talking Anyone with Michelin Pilot Super Sport on their LS?

I've read plenty of good reviews from "sports" car crowd, but no reviews from just plain old jane like me.. Trying to see how these tires work for a car like the LS..

Thinking about ordering a set in the stock 235/50/18 size...

I have a 100% stock car. The car felt a little to soft for my liking, so I am going to try these tires out. I do not drive hard at all. Just trying to improve handling a bit. Even a 2% increase in "performance" I would be happy. The OEM tires seem a bit narrow for a v8, so I am going to give a "grippy" tire a try.. 30k thread life should last me about 3-4 years.

Had the OEM Bridgestones..
Right now, Pirelli Nero Zero AS..

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Tires that grip better then the cars softer luxury suspension is going to make your car boat quiet a bit.
The LS is better suited for performance all season tires that will give at the limits gradually then at the extreme compression end of the shock stroke.
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Originally Posted by Devh
Tires that grip better then the cars softer luxury suspension is going to make your car boat quiet a bit.
The LS is better suited for performance all season tires that will give at the limits gradually then at the extreme compression end of the shock stroke.
hmmm... what you are saying makes perfect sense to me..

i was semi-afraid of that. I actually held off on ordering the tires for now. Would like to order a set of new tires in the next few days. I am trying to firm up the suspension just a tad bit..
Old 05-05-15, 04:01 PM
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Primacy MXM4's, Pirilli P7, Continental ExtremeContact would all be good choices. If you want to firm it up a bit look at some aftermarket sway bars.
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I have the Pilot Super Sport 225/50/18's on my oem wheels.. i love them really quiet, GREAT WET TRACTION! !!!! Good wear.. a lil pricey but well worth it.. not quite as car boaty as the oem tires...
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Originally Posted by Shibumi1
I have the Pilot Super Sport 225/50/18's on my oem wheels.. i love them really quiet, GREAT WET TRACTION! !!!! Good wear.. a lil pricey but well worth it.. not quite as car boaty as the oem tires...
Wait.. so are you saying these improved your handling?

First, I apologize for mentioning "handling" in a LS460 forum..
but what I am asking is that does the car body roll more now since your new tires' sidewalls are harder now?

http://www.thecartech.com/subjects/a...SUSPENSION.htm

look at fig 1.2 on the link above.. i would think the body roll increases due to the increased grip of the PSS tires.. as Devh mentioned above..
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Maybe with lower tire pressure.... i typically run a higher pressure to increase mileage...body roll was HORRIBLE on stock Michelin...
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
Wait.. so are you saying these improved your handling?

First, I apologize for mentioning "handling" in a LS460 forum..
but what I am asking is that does the car body roll more now since your new tires' sidewalls are harder now?

http://www.thecartech.com/subjects/a...SUSPENSION.htm

look at fig 1.2 on the link above.. i would think the body roll increases due to the increased grip of the PSS tires.. as Devh mentioned above..
Shibumi1 car is far from stock. It's lowered and I'm sure his car is stiffer.

A stiffer sidewall will give you the illusion of a better handling car on light transitions at the expense of a harder ride but it will not give you good handling at the limit, and you have a greater possibility of swapping ends if you traction control is turned off. The tires will also give you better turning feel if that is what you are looking for.
Tires will make the most difference but if it is not matched to the dampening and spring rates you will get a boaty car and possibly a car that handles poorly.
Some people who drive real sports cars (not muscle cars) on the street like a little slip in their tires because it's safer to have fun at lower speeds.

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I had the pss b4 i did ANY mods (correction i did drilled/slotted rotors)....... who drives an Ls to the limit? Its no where near a sports car... I'm not running a slalom course in my Ls.. But in Fl where rain storms happen in an instant... (not to mention i was SERIOUSLY injured in my youth due to a hydroplaning accident) wet traction is key in most of my tire purchase decisions... that said the pss are much quieter than the oem Michelin.. an much better wet traction.. i had the floaty feel on the oem's.. it got better w/the pss.. then even better when i put the tanabes..

If u think having good traction is a problem... try hydroplaning on a highway out of control...an then waiting to cut out of the car with the jaws of life.......

Floaty is the suspension not the tires

Lastly roads in D.C. border on off-road status.. in the south i never see snow an our rds are almost like new... an promptly repaired if the do get rough...

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I went ahead and ordered the A/S 3.. we'll see how that goes.
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What tire brand is the A/S 3?
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Originally Posted by Nospinzone
What tire brand is the A/S 3?
I meant the Michelin Pilot Sport All-Season 3
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I bet you will be happy with those.
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
I went ahead and ordered the A/S 3.. we'll see how that goes.
Did you get these tires put on yet? If so, what are your impressions?
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Originally Posted by mbarron37
Did you get these tires put on yet? If so, what are your impressions?
No, they were back-ordered, so I am waiting for the phone call to come by and install...

Will write up a review after few hundred miles.


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