wheels - is bigger better or is motion of the ocean?
03-24-14, 10:05 AM
#16
Just got a flat on my rear 22 inch tire and I put the 19 back on while I ordered my size 305 tire, I almost thought about going back to stock then I saw the difference and I was like Hell NO! The compliments and complete look of your ride change dramatically with 22's. But thats what I want as its not my daily.
,LMAO!!!!!!, i wouldn't go with anything less or greater
03-24-14, 11:06 AM
#17
Having just put on a set of 20's I can say that the ride is not as comfortable as stock, which in my case is 18". You do feel more of the road so if you live in an area with poorly maintained roads you should give consideration.
Don't get me wrong I am fine with the 20's and can live with the little bit of ride comfort trade off. I can only suspect that with less side wall on the 22's the road feel will be more pronounced.
Don't get me wrong I am fine with the 20's and can live with the little bit of ride comfort trade off. I can only suspect that with less side wall on the 22's the road feel will be more pronounced.
03-24-14, 12:48 PM
#18
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Having just put on a set of 20's I can say that the ride is not as comfortable as stock, which in my case is 18". You do feel more of the road so if you live in an area with poorly maintained roads you should give consideration.
Don't get me wrong I am fine with the 20's and can live with the little bit of ride comfort trade off. I can only suspect that with less side wall on the 22's the road feel will be more pronounced.
Don't get me wrong I am fine with the 20's and can live with the little bit of ride comfort trade off. I can only suspect that with less side wall on the 22's the road feel will be more pronounced.
As far as me going from 19 to 22 inch, I lost nearly 1.3" of sidewall! That is pretty significant. Less sidewall means less give and flexing. If you are worried about ride quality, upgrade to the 19x8 OEM wheels, there are several styles now with the 2013 changes that will work. You would have a 245/45/19 tire for those to match up.
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03-24-14, 01:50 PM
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22's look great, but not much tire height with a 30 or 25 series tire, that's pretty thin. Watch the potholes, lol
I'm gonna ride on the stock 19's for a while and do the spacers like CJITTY suggested. When the stock tires wear down, I'll take a closer look at changing.
I think a good compromise would be 20's with a Data Systems level controller.
Thinking:
20 x 9 inch wheels with 245/40R20 tires for front
20 x 10 1/2 with 275/35R20 for rears
I'm gonna ride on the stock 19's for a while and do the spacers like CJITTY suggested. When the stock tires wear down, I'll take a closer look at changing.
I think a good compromise would be 20's with a Data Systems level controller.
Thinking:
20 x 9 inch wheels with 245/40R20 tires for front
20 x 10 1/2 with 275/35R20 for rears
Last edited by 14LSSport; 03-24-14 at 01:55 PM.
03-24-14, 02:03 PM
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22's look great, but not much tire height with a 30 or 25 series tire, that's pretty thin. Watch the potholes, lol
I'm gonna ride on the stock 19's for a while and do the spacers like CJITTY suggested. When the stock tires wear down, I'll take a closer look at changing.
I think a good compromise would be 20's with a Data Systems level controller.
Thinking:
20 x 9 inch wheels with 245/40R20 tires for front
20 x 10 1/2 with 275/35R20 for rears
I'm gonna ride on the stock 19's for a while and do the spacers like CJITTY suggested. When the stock tires wear down, I'll take a closer look at changing.
I think a good compromise would be 20's with a Data Systems level controller.
Thinking:
20 x 9 inch wheels with 245/40R20 tires for front
20 x 10 1/2 with 275/35R20 for rears
15mm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/15MM-LEXUS-HUB-CENTRIC-SPACERS-5X120-CB-60-1-W-STUDS-ATTACHED-SP-/330954431718?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d0e6bdce6&vxp=mtr20mm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20MM-LEXUS-HUB-CENTRIC-SPACERS-5X120-CB-60-1-W-STUDS-ATTACHED-SP-/231185854549?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35d3c03055&vxp=mtr
In case these links get removed, just search ebay exactly for:
15mm Lexus Hub Centric Spacers 5x120 CB 60 1 w Studs Attached SP
20mm Lexus Hub Centric Spacers 5x120 CB 60 1 w Studs Attached SP
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03-24-14, 02:25 PM
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CJITTY you have been more than helpful. thanks, I gotta make time soon to put my spacers on, they were very nicely made by Motorsports Tech and way more expensive than Akata.
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03-24-14, 02:31 PM
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I will recommend, HIGHLY recommend that when you install these, torque the spacers to the hub with 103 ft lbs. Then, torque wheels to spacers with 103 ft lbs also. Then, every 25 miles or so, re torque wheels because that new metal will expand. I would do that for the first 100 miles or so to ensure everything is good to go. It doesn't hurt to check anyway and any time you add something like this, you are introducing some risk. But with oversight and knowing your car, you will be able to ward off any issues within your control. 
Also, those open ended spacer nuts have a conical seat, so make sure the rounded (tapered) side of the nut goes into the spacer so it can seat up properly. In other words, the flat side needs to face out toward you.
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03-24-14, 02:38 PM
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Oh, so you are good to go..I'm late to the party lol.... I will recommend, HIGHLY recommend that when you install these, torque the spacers to the hub with 103 ft lbs. Then, torque wheels to spacers with 103 ft lbs also. Then, every 25 miles or so, re torque wheels because that new metal will expand. I would do that for the first 100 miles or so to ensure everything is good to go. It doesn't hurt to check anyway and any time you add something like this, you are introducing some risk. But with oversight and knowing your car, you will be able to ward off any issues within your control.
Also, those open ended spacer nuts have a conical seat, so make sure the rounded (tapered) side of the nut goes into the spacer so it can seat up properly. In other words, the flat side needs to face out toward you.
I will recommend, HIGHLY recommend that when you install these, torque the spacers to the hub with 103 ft lbs. Then, torque wheels to spacers with 103 ft lbs also. Then, every 25 miles or so, re torque wheels because that new metal will expand. I would do that for the first 100 miles or so to ensure everything is good to go. It doesn't hurt to check anyway and any time you add something like this, you are introducing some risk. But with oversight and knowing your car, you will be able to ward off any issues within your control. Also, those open ended spacer nuts have a conical seat, so make sure the rounded (tapered) side of the nut goes into the spacer so it can seat up properly. In other words, the flat side needs to face out toward you.
Thanks man, I got a good torque wrench that I use for drag racing on my Lightning. Plus, I was partners in a custom wheel shop in Augusta GA for about 3 years then got out of it when the partner started not treating people right. I know a little more about wheels then I'm letting on, not saying in a smart *** way. CJITTY, I really appreciate all your help on these boards. Every vehicle I own has custom wheels, I own 4 trucks total and the Lexus.
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03-26-14, 09:45 AM
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Not to mention thinner sidewall = prone to wheel bending over potholes. I bent my vossen 22" after like 4 weeks of having them, ran over a pothole on the highway (i got it repaired for $150)... and the car is also my daily.... I want to put the stock wheels back on, but i can't sacrifice the look. Dilemma.
03-26-14, 10:40 AM
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Not to mention thinner sidewall = prone to wheel bending over potholes. I bent my vossen 22" after like 4 weeks of having them, ran over a pothole on the highway (i got it repaired for $150)... and the car is also my daily.... I want to put the stock wheels back on, but i can't sacrifice the look. Dilemma.
03-26-14, 11:58 AM
#26
I hear what everyone is saying about the loss of "A comfortable Ride" when going to the 22's but it is so small I barely noticed it at all.
Just my opinion but the ride is still very nice and comfortable at any speed. Keep the tire pressure up on the 22's and you won't be bending wheels.
The wife and I drove to Yosemite last weekend putting on a little over 400 miles and never really noticed it.
Just my opinion but the ride is still very nice and comfortable at any speed. Keep the tire pressure up on the 22's and you won't be bending wheels.
The wife and I drove to Yosemite last weekend putting on a little over 400 miles and never really noticed it.
03-26-14, 12:46 PM
#27
21's are the perfect size for the large LS platform. Unfortunately, wheel selection and proper tire sizing limits your choices.
20's are a good alternative to stock, but still a little small IMO.
At $3 grand for wheels and tires, you'll have to stick with a one piece setup or a set of knock off wheels.
20's are a good alternative to stock, but still a little small IMO.
At $3 grand for wheels and tires, you'll have to stick with a one piece setup or a set of knock off wheels.
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