LS - 4th Gen (2007-2017) Discussion topics related to the current flagship models LS460, LS460L and LS600H

Vibration at freeway speeds

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-15-12, 06:05 PM
  #1  
lbintab
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
lbintab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CA
Posts: 1,438
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts
Default Vibration at freeway speeds

I have a weird vibration only at freeway speeds. It's a vibration that lasts 3 seconds but are consistently 2-3 seconds apart. It's a very suttle vibration and can be felt at my feet and slightly on the wheel. My passengers can feel it if I mention it. The key thing about the vibration it's starts and goes away the starts and goes away, any ideas??
lbintab is offline  
Old 07-15-12, 10:49 PM
  #2  
Lextrician
Lexus Test Driver
 
Lextrician's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Wa
Posts: 1,379
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

might have to check you balancing might be the rear. check if any of the weights have fallen off or retorque the lug nuts..
Lextrician is offline  
Old 07-16-12, 07:34 AM
  #3  
G-SharK
Pole Position
 
G-SharK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: TX
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

I just experience that with my stock wheels. I had 22" on for almost a year now and this past weekend decided to use my stock wheels for a road trip and between 75-80 especially when slowing down and accelerating, I get that vibration. My stock wheels are not balance b/c I did not think I would ever use them again and plus they don't have the tire pressure sensor since I told them off for used in my 22". I do think it is a balancing issue too.
G-SharK is offline  
Old 07-16-12, 07:36 AM
  #4  
G-SharK
Pole Position
 
G-SharK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: TX
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

One other thing I experience was, It cause more vibration as I accelerated which made me think the wheels are off balanced.
G-SharK is offline  
Old 07-16-12, 10:57 AM
  #5  
I8ABMR
Lexus Fanatic
 
I8ABMR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Waiting for next track day
Posts: 22,609
Received 100 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

The story of my life with my damn LS. I love this car but it has been two years of vibrations. I have had the car in the shop for more than 45 days total trying to get this vibration resolved. Mine is the same thing where it vibrates for about 5 seconds decreases for about 3 seconds then come back. It oscillates and it cycles over about a 4-5 week period. It will start and get progressively worse over a month then disappear for a few days and returns. I have had multiple shop foremans and multiple Lexus field tech specialists and they cant figure it out. They just replaced my drive shaft and it has done nothing. They said they think its my tire because when they spin you can see side to side motion of the tread bars, BUT why is it still shaking with my stocks. Im telling you right now, dont listen to the tire BS. The cars have an issue. I am not the only one. If you do a google search doe LS460 vibration you will see what I mean. I also know of at least 3 other in the LS forum who have had the same issue. They have checked wheel hubs, bearing, driveline, wheels, replaced 22's. replaced 22' tires, replaced oem wheels, and oem tires. They have evaluated the axles, brakes, steering rack........... If I could I would sell my LS and get something else but it looks like I will need to hold on to this car for a while. Its so frustrating ( sorry about the rant). How the hell can a Lexus dealership tell you that they cant figure it out. I am going to take it in one more time with the oem wheels to let this different tech look at the car. I have a feeling we are screwed. I wouldnt say that if I havent been trying to work this out for 20 months now. I know we have the same issue because it both do that weird mystery vibration where it oscillates. That means its not the wheels imho, but the tech said that if the two rear tires are defective they will oscillate out of pattern and then temporarily fall into equal oscillation and out again. God help us both!!!

What tires are you running on the Vossens. I am running Pirelli P zeros and had the same issue with the continentals but the tech at the wheel shop even showed me the tread moving side to side with the contis as well. I am thinking to try Michelins next time and drop the 2k. If not I will try the Nitto INVO. I had vibrations with my G35 and GS with every tire I used other than Michelin PS AS+ and Nitto INVO.

I have read these reports with cars that are 2007 to 2010. One person who posted a complaint on the web stated that it started from the first day
I8ABMR is offline  
Old 07-16-12, 11:01 AM
  #6  
I8ABMR
Lexus Fanatic
 
I8ABMR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Waiting for next track day
Posts: 22,609
Received 100 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by New to IS3
I just experience that with my stock wheels. I had 22" on for almost a year now and this past weekend decided to use my stock wheels for a road trip and between 75-80 especially when slowing down and accelerating, I get that vibration. My stock wheels are not balance b/c I did not think I would ever use them again and plus they don't have the tire pressure sensor since I told them off for used in my 22". I do think it is a balancing issue too.
I have had my oem wheels and two sets of 22" wheels balanced a total of 21 times !!!! with no change !!!!!. I have had them balanced at the Mecca of tire shops in AZ, three Lexus dealerships, and two different discount tires. I dont think its the tires but I am going to try Michelins ( or Nitto INVO) next time to see if it helps get rid of the issue. They quoted me 2k for Michelins so I will need to wait. Its also a big gamble considering its happening with the oem stocks with brand new tires that the foreman and FTS at the dealership both said checked out

Lets try to work on this together guys. If someone gets a fix PLEASE PLEASE share with the rest.
I8ABMR is offline  
Old 07-16-12, 11:59 AM
  #7  
G-SharK
Pole Position
 
G-SharK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: TX
Posts: 384
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Interesting, I will keep an eye out the next time I switch back to my 22's and see if the vibration is still there. I wonder if it was there the whole time and I just now realized it. Crossing fingers and switch my stock back to my 22's in a few weeks.
G-SharK is offline  
Old 07-16-12, 02:17 PM
  #8  
lbintab
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
lbintab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CA
Posts: 1,438
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

well im running toyos out back and pzeros up front. I'll try my stocks and see what happens.
lbintab is offline  
Old 07-16-12, 02:31 PM
  #9  
I8ABMR
Lexus Fanatic
 
I8ABMR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Waiting for next track day
Posts: 22,609
Received 100 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

please let us know. My car does it with the stocks as well. Its just less.
I8ABMR is offline  
Old 07-16-12, 06:28 PM
  #10  
lbintab
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
lbintab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: CA
Posts: 1,438
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

im afraid that the dealer will say because it has modified suspension that they won't cover it.
lbintab is offline  
Old 07-16-12, 08:16 PM
  #11  
I8ABMR
Lexus Fanatic
 
I8ABMR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Waiting for next track day
Posts: 22,609
Received 100 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

thats right. I forgot that you are dropped. In the end they have to examine it and it will only not be covered if the springs are the culprit. I fear is that they will look at the car, not be able to diagnose, and then they will simply attribute it to the springs. Honestly I have been waiting off on dropping the car because of this reason ( and the camber arms). I even drove around with my stock wheels for 5 months to give the dealers and shops the ability to examine the car in oem stock form
I8ABMR is offline  
Old 07-17-12, 08:30 AM
  #12  
09LS460
Rookie
 
09LS460's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: UT
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I've got a bit of the vibration as well, but have gone a few rounds with replacing all 4 tires, alignment, caster factory brackets intsalled (as of yesterday) and about to get 4 different tires as well to see if this goes away.

Mine's not severe...i can feel it in the steering wheel, but not really anywhere else......

One thing that happened to me once was doing 40 mph, slightly up hill, and my car started to stutter......and i don't mean slight vibration, i mean that it felt like the transmission was having a seizure.....one time thing, but that should have been a sign to flip the car.....lol......we'll see.

Last edited by 09LS460; 07-17-12 at 11:32 AM.
09LS460 is offline  
Old 07-17-12, 10:35 AM
  #13  
I8ABMR
Lexus Fanatic
 
I8ABMR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Waiting for next track day
Posts: 22,609
Received 100 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

when I get frustrated I often think of dumping the car and finally getting that S550 I have always wanted. I need to keep my LS for a bit longer. This issue is disappointing to say the least
I8ABMR is offline  
Old 08-27-14, 06:35 PM
  #14  
rakan190
Driver School Candidate
 
rakan190's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: abu dhabi
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Help!

im new here , I have just bought the LS600HL 2009 and im facing the same vibration problem on speeds 100 -140 km , my tires are ok "half way" I had my car serviced few days a go and I have mentioned this issue and was told to change my tries , but after reading your posts now I doubt that this is the problem , i was wondering if you guys have reached to a solution with this vibration thing and if so please advice me
rakan190 is offline  
Old 08-27-14, 07:15 PM
  #15  
williakz
Lexus Test Driver
 
williakz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: MO
Posts: 813
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Have your dealer or a good brake shop check the runout on your rotors. You will no doubt find they are warped out of tolerance. Depending on the degree of warpage, they most likely can be "turned" or resurfaced to remove the warp. If not, you'll have to purchase new front rotors since they do 70% of the braking work and are thus more prone to overheating and warping. Once you get the story on whether the rotors are warped, report back here and you'll get some suggestions on different ways to correct the problem. Good luck.
williakz is offline  


Quick Reply: Vibration at freeway speeds



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:41 AM.