HID Fog Install DIY w/PICS for LS460
06-23-11, 05:35 AM
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07-09-11, 11:32 AM
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Just wanted to give an update. I have been using the 3000K (yellow) 9006 HID bulbs (pigtails) in my fogs for almost a year now. The rebased D2R to 9006 Philips bulbs actually both failed in the LS housing. Not sure if the LS fog housing doesn't allow for cooling more than my Acura TL fog housing, but the 9006 rebased collar actually became separated on both bulbs. Luckily, the bulbs didn't fall out or anything. I only noticed it when I took them out to put the yellows in. When I turned the bulb, the bulb came out, but the collar stayed locked into the housing. So Lexus engineers in their wisdom have screws there that open that up easily so I could get the piece out. So, I would avoid rebased and just do the HID pigtail setups since they are molded one piece and not rebased.
I am going to order a set of the DDM 3000K bulbs that Tee has, my yellow bulbs have been drinking a ton of water and the pee yellow color on the road is more clear these days.
But bottom line, no issues with parking sensors, headlights, housings, electrical system..NOTHIN! These HID ballasts are pretty durable...back in 2005 when i first did this on my Acura, they were $225 for a kit
..now, $30 shipped on EBAY...just like microwaves and dvd players..just cheap as hell now
Hope everyone is enjoying their HID fog setups, I know I am.
I am going to order a set of the DDM 3000K bulbs that Tee has, my yellow bulbs have been drinking a ton of water and the pee yellow color on the road is more clear these days.
But bottom line, no issues with parking sensors, headlights, housings, electrical system..NOTHIN! These HID ballasts are pretty durable...back in 2005 when i first did this on my Acura, they were $225 for a kit
..now, $30 shipped on EBAY...just like microwaves and dvd players..just cheap as hell nowHope everyone is enjoying their HID fog setups, I know I am.
08-25-12, 12:16 PM
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I just followed the original instructions on this post using this kit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexus-LS600H...item4ab96c2dd5
and it took me 40 minutes - open to close. Instructions above we perfect - except the contol module is ultra slim (no bracket ) so i zip tied it to the same hole in the picture. In addition - this kit clipped right in - no wires to tape. Pictures later - looks great on my 600HL!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexus-LS600H...item4ab96c2dd5
and it took me 40 minutes - open to close. Instructions above we perfect - except the contol module is ultra slim (no bracket ) so i zip tied it to the same hole in the picture. In addition - this kit clipped right in - no wires to tape. Pictures later - looks great on my 600HL!
08-25-12, 12:34 PM
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I just followed the original instructions on this post using this kit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexus-LS600H...item4ab96c2dd5
and it took me 40 minutes - open to close. Instructions above we perfect - except the contol module is ultra slim (no bracket ) so i zip tied it to the same hole in the picture. In addition - this kit clipped right in - no wires to tape. Pictures later - looks great on my 600HL!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexus-LS600H...item4ab96c2dd5
and it took me 40 minutes - open to close. Instructions above we perfect - except the contol module is ultra slim (no bracket ) so i zip tied it to the same hole in the picture. In addition - this kit clipped right in - no wires to tape. Pictures later - looks great on my 600HL!
11-03-13, 09:15 PM
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Is it better to go with the non digital ballast like the Xentec Premium 9006 HB4 or the digital ballast (slim) like Optix Slim HID Kit - 9006/HB4? Which one will prevent interferences with the parking sensors?
Also, it seems that the 35w will be better because the 55w might cause issue with the onboad computer, is that correct?
Also, it seems that the 35w will be better because the 55w might cause issue with the onboad computer, is that correct?
11-04-13, 11:14 AM
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Hello Everyone,
I installed my HID fogs today and thought I would share some pics and info that could help someone out, yes I know this is a long post..sorry.
Some housekeeping:
Disclaimer - attempt at your own risk and I am not responsible for what happens to your install.
My camera really sucks and I was in a rush to install these, so these are the best pics I could provide.
Shout out to my boy Dan for helping me out.
Whats needed as it related to my HID fog install:
*HID Kit with a 9006 bulb application (35 watt system is recommended and most common)
Note - my HID bulbs are OEM Philips 4100K D2S bulbs that have been retrofitted with a 9006 collar to fit into 9006 applications. PM me if you want the ebay seller name that should be able to get you some of these. I recall paying about $60 a pair.
*Flat Head Screwdriver to remove fender liner screws
*Slotted Screwdriver to remove fender liner screws
*two bolts with nuts
*2 big washers with smaller hole for bolts
*2 smaller washers
* Electrical Tape
* Long Zip Ties (optional to support ballast in bracket tighter)
* Isopropyl Alchohol (used to clean HID bulbs to remove any oils)
* Q-tips to clean bulbs with alchohol
Begin by parking car on level surface. Safety First. Make sure lights are off completely, not Auto and also turn the fog switch OFF.
Pick a side to start working on, I chose drivers side and took pics of only this side of the install since the right side is identical. Only difference is there is more room behind the fender liner on the pass side.
Loosen the two fender lining rivet stile plastic screws and one metal screw toward the top that also holds the plastic wheel wheel liner edge and one metal screw at the very bottom of the liner underneath bumper (bottom screw not shown, sorry)
Here is a close up of the overall fog light assembly
Notice the mounting location I chose, a pre drilled hole already there:
Turn and remove the existing halogen 9006 bulb by turning and it should pull out. You may have to wiggle it some. Unplug the light bulb from the connector.
At this point, you may want to test your new HID bulbs and each ballast to make sure they work. Instructions for connection are below or should of come with your kit.
Here is the bracket that came with my HID kit, one bracket per ballast.
Here is what the ballast looks like in the bracket. Notice that on the install that the wires are pointing down where they enter the ballast. This allows for more play and perhaps keeping water from hanging around. You can zip tie around the bracket and ballast to make sure the tabs are tight around the ballast if you wish.
I used the big washer to brace the back side of the bracket facing the front of the car and then a smaller washer on the side facing the tire and then mount the ballast to the pre drilled hole in the bumper frame. The ballast will basically hang down. These ballasts are pretty stable, but slight vibration like this should not be a factor. Once the fender liner is back in place, it will act as a support and keep the ballast from moving around.
At the end of the ballast, one set of wires connect to the pigtails of the HID bulb. The other connection will have two leads (perhaps there is a finished plug for your kit)
There are two female receptacles on the stock harness plug. Insert the red lead wire to which the red wire on the car is going. Then, the other wire will connect into the other female connector. Red seems to stay consistent, but the grounds can be white, blue or black from my experience doing these installs. Just make sure you know which is pos and which is neg. If the fogs don't come on, make sure your fog switch is on, high beams are off. If no luck, then switch the wires.
It should look like this:
Later on you may want to seal up the connection with some electrical tape.
Get a Q-tip and dip in the alchohol and clean off the bulb glass to make sure it is free of oil. Let it just air dry, takes a few seconds. Make sure you don't touch the glass! Where some latex gloves if you have no confidence in your ability to not touch the glass.
Connect the HID bulb wires to the pigtails from the ballast. You can't mess this up, they are male to female and female to male plugs and only go on one way.
Insert the HID bulb back into the fog light assembly. Push it in, turn and you should feel it lock into place. Pull on the light to make sure it is firmly in place.
Start car, and then turn on the fogs to see if it lights up, hopefully it should..you did testing along the way.
Leave the fender liner open for now.
Complete the install on the other side the same way
Once both bulbs are installed, you may want to double check to make sure they are aimed. Notice in the pic further up, there is an adjustment gear to change the vertical aim. I did not have to adjust mine, but I may lower mine to add more light between the bumper and where the low beams start showing on the road.
Easiest way to check aim is first pull up to a flat wall and notice if the fog pattern is basically even on each side..you can see a line going across. The true test is driving at night. If you get flashed, a good sign you need to lower the beams down. Again, i have not been flashed yet or had to adjust them to make sure the fog beams were even with each other.
Then, on each side push in the excess wire, close up the fender liners and put the screws/rivets back in and you are now HID fog kitted out.
On the right (driver side) is HID fog, on the left (pass side) is halogen fog. Camera really can't show the difference as well as I hoped.
Here is both HID fogs in
Here are some night pics also, enjoy.
HID fogs OFF
HID fogs ON
HID fogs OFF:
HID fogs ON:
FINAL PRODUCT
I hope this is helpful to someone, take it easy folks!
I installed my HID fogs today and thought I would share some pics and info that could help someone out, yes I know this is a long post..sorry.
Some housekeeping:
Disclaimer - attempt at your own risk and I am not responsible for what happens to your install.
My camera really sucks and I was in a rush to install these, so these are the best pics I could provide.
Shout out to my boy Dan for helping me out.
Whats needed as it related to my HID fog install:
*HID Kit with a 9006 bulb application (35 watt system is recommended and most common)
Note - my HID bulbs are OEM Philips 4100K D2S bulbs that have been retrofitted with a 9006 collar to fit into 9006 applications. PM me if you want the ebay seller name that should be able to get you some of these. I recall paying about $60 a pair.
*Flat Head Screwdriver to remove fender liner screws
*Slotted Screwdriver to remove fender liner screws
*two bolts with nuts
*2 big washers with smaller hole for bolts
*2 smaller washers
* Electrical Tape
* Long Zip Ties (optional to support ballast in bracket tighter)
* Isopropyl Alchohol (used to clean HID bulbs to remove any oils)
* Q-tips to clean bulbs with alchohol
Begin by parking car on level surface. Safety First. Make sure lights are off completely, not Auto and also turn the fog switch OFF.
Pick a side to start working on, I chose drivers side and took pics of only this side of the install since the right side is identical. Only difference is there is more room behind the fender liner on the pass side.
Loosen the two fender lining rivet stile plastic screws and one metal screw toward the top that also holds the plastic wheel wheel liner edge and one metal screw at the very bottom of the liner underneath bumper (bottom screw not shown, sorry)
Here is a close up of the overall fog light assembly
Notice the mounting location I chose, a pre drilled hole already there:
Turn and remove the existing halogen 9006 bulb by turning and it should pull out. You may have to wiggle it some. Unplug the light bulb from the connector.
At this point, you may want to test your new HID bulbs and each ballast to make sure they work. Instructions for connection are below or should of come with your kit.
Here is the bracket that came with my HID kit, one bracket per ballast.
Here is what the ballast looks like in the bracket. Notice that on the install that the wires are pointing down where they enter the ballast. This allows for more play and perhaps keeping water from hanging around. You can zip tie around the bracket and ballast to make sure the tabs are tight around the ballast if you wish.
I used the big washer to brace the back side of the bracket facing the front of the car and then a smaller washer on the side facing the tire and then mount the ballast to the pre drilled hole in the bumper frame. The ballast will basically hang down. These ballasts are pretty stable, but slight vibration like this should not be a factor. Once the fender liner is back in place, it will act as a support and keep the ballast from moving around.
At the end of the ballast, one set of wires connect to the pigtails of the HID bulb. The other connection will have two leads (perhaps there is a finished plug for your kit)
There are two female receptacles on the stock harness plug. Insert the red lead wire to which the red wire on the car is going. Then, the other wire will connect into the other female connector. Red seems to stay consistent, but the grounds can be white, blue or black from my experience doing these installs. Just make sure you know which is pos and which is neg. If the fogs don't come on, make sure your fog switch is on, high beams are off. If no luck, then switch the wires.
It should look like this:
Later on you may want to seal up the connection with some electrical tape.
Get a Q-tip and dip in the alchohol and clean off the bulb glass to make sure it is free of oil. Let it just air dry, takes a few seconds. Make sure you don't touch the glass! Where some latex gloves if you have no confidence in your ability to not touch the glass.
Connect the HID bulb wires to the pigtails from the ballast. You can't mess this up, they are male to female and female to male plugs and only go on one way.
Insert the HID bulb back into the fog light assembly. Push it in, turn and you should feel it lock into place. Pull on the light to make sure it is firmly in place.
Start car, and then turn on the fogs to see if it lights up, hopefully it should..you did testing along the way.
Leave the fender liner open for now.
Complete the install on the other side the same way
Once both bulbs are installed, you may want to double check to make sure they are aimed. Notice in the pic further up, there is an adjustment gear to change the vertical aim. I did not have to adjust mine, but I may lower mine to add more light between the bumper and where the low beams start showing on the road.
Easiest way to check aim is first pull up to a flat wall and notice if the fog pattern is basically even on each side..you can see a line going across. The true test is driving at night. If you get flashed, a good sign you need to lower the beams down. Again, i have not been flashed yet or had to adjust them to make sure the fog beams were even with each other.
Then, on each side push in the excess wire, close up the fender liners and put the screws/rivets back in and you are now HID fog kitted out.
On the right (driver side) is HID fog, on the left (pass side) is halogen fog. Camera really can't show the difference as well as I hoped.
Here is both HID fogs in
Here are some night pics also, enjoy.
HID fogs OFF
HID fogs ON
HID fogs OFF:
HID fogs ON:
FINAL PRODUCT
I hope this is helpful to someone, take it easy folks!
11-04-13, 02:17 PM
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11-04-13, 02:42 PM
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Thanks Tee and CJITTY for the feedback! I searched on ebay/amz and couldn't find a kit that comes with non digital ballasts. Seems that all the models (xenec, autovision etc..) all come in digital slim or extra slim ballasts.
I made an inquiry with one of the vendor but s there a specific brand i should be looking for on ebay?
I made an inquiry with one of the vendor but s there a specific brand i should be looking for on ebay?
11-04-13, 03:17 PM
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Thanks Tee and CJITTY for the feedback! I searched on ebay/amz and couldn't find a kit that comes with non digital ballasts. Seems that all the models (xenec, autovision etc..) all come in digital slim or extra slim ballasts.
I made an inquiry with one of the vendor but s there a specific brand i should be looking for on ebay?
I made an inquiry with one of the vendor but s there a specific brand i should be looking for on ebay?
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11-04-13, 06:19 PM
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