LS 460 and GS 350 at invoice ?
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LS 460 and GS 350 at invoice ?
Hello, I am thinking to buy a Lexus LS 460 or a GS 350 AWD, I heard most dealer are selling those cars at invoice, is it true ? I love the LS but I want an AWD without being a SUV, so I am still deciding between the 2 cars ?
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Some of them might be, their market is really down now.
They'll still get the holdback from Lexus. I think it's about 2.5%
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If you follow this link it will show you the upcoming AWD LS.
http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_sh.html
The GS350 AWD is nice but the GS is in no way a LS (just my $.02)
On a personal side note.....In regards to buying at invoice. If you can afford
a luxury car, just buy it. Make your dealer some money. It usually comes back to you. A dealer will be more likely to help you with a situation that arises later on in ownership if you weren't the guy who grinded it out with there sales manager for 6 hours so you could save $1,000. (I speak from experience). Even worse, Lexus and Toyota start selling all there cars at invoice and become GM/Ford part II. Less profit equals less Research and Development equals poor fit and finish and the loss of the Pursuit of Perfection. I am not saying pay sticker but if your looking for an invoice deal, you should shop Cadillac.
http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_sh.html
The GS350 AWD is nice but the GS is in no way a LS (just my $.02)
On a personal side note.....In regards to buying at invoice. If you can afford
a luxury car, just buy it. Make your dealer some money. It usually comes back to you. A dealer will be more likely to help you with a situation that arises later on in ownership if you weren't the guy who grinded it out with there sales manager for 6 hours so you could save $1,000. (I speak from experience). Even worse, Lexus and Toyota start selling all there cars at invoice and become GM/Ford part II. Less profit equals less Research and Development equals poor fit and finish and the loss of the Pursuit of Perfection. I am not saying pay sticker but if your looking for an invoice deal, you should shop Cadillac.
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If you follow this link it will show you the upcoming AWD LS.
http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_sh.html
http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_sh.html
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True. I apologize. I should have qualified my statement by saying the
LS's new AWD system is going to be the same as the 600H or this "future/prototype" version. I have heard test cars are already in existence and being tested at the Toyota Testing Site here in AZ.
LS's new AWD system is going to be the same as the 600H or this "future/prototype" version. I have heard test cars are already in existence and being tested at the Toyota Testing Site here in AZ.
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If you follow this link it will show you the upcoming AWD LS.
http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_sh.html
The GS350 AWD is nice but the GS is in no way a LS (just my $.02)
On a personal side note.....In regards to buying at invoice. If you can afford
a luxury car, just buy it. Make your dealer some money. It usually comes back to you. A dealer will be more likely to help you with a situation that arises later on in ownership if you weren't the guy who grinded it out with there sales manager for 6 hours so you could save $1,000. (I speak from experience). Even worse, Lexus and Toyota start selling all there cars at invoice and become GM/Ford part II. Less profit equals less Research and Development equals poor fit and finish and the loss of the Pursuit of Perfection. I am not saying pay sticker but if your looking for an invoice deal, you should shop Cadillac.
http://www.lexus.com/fcv/lf_sh.html
The GS350 AWD is nice but the GS is in no way a LS (just my $.02)
On a personal side note.....In regards to buying at invoice. If you can afford
a luxury car, just buy it. Make your dealer some money. It usually comes back to you. A dealer will be more likely to help you with a situation that arises later on in ownership if you weren't the guy who grinded it out with there sales manager for 6 hours so you could save $1,000. (I speak from experience). Even worse, Lexus and Toyota start selling all there cars at invoice and become GM/Ford part II. Less profit equals less Research and Development equals poor fit and finish and the loss of the Pursuit of Perfection. I am not saying pay sticker but if your looking for an invoice deal, you should shop Cadillac.
So, in concluson, I think all deals happen at a dealership are fair, it is business, you don't have to buy or dealer don't have to sell if one of the parties thinks the deal is unfair. If Lexus does not want to end up like GM/FORD part II, then I think they should sell all of their cars at MSRP or close to it and reject all UNREASONABLE deals like buying close to their invoice price ! But are they enforcing it ? They are the one to decide whether they want to sell a car at a certain price, we can't buy it if they don't want to sell it ! Just to be fair, I am not saying all the dealers, but some dealers does give people very ridiculous price for their trade ins, they will also spend a lot of time to try make you agree to their offers on your trade in ! Like I said before, there will not be a deal if one of the parties disagree on the terms ! You will be surprised how many Brands such as some models in Mercedes-Benz is selling below invoice ! And once again I am not trying to buy a Lexus at invoice, instead I just want to know the market price and a suggesting price from a consumer point of view !
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