View Poll Results: How do you feel about the Lexus NAVI lockout?
I'm glad it's there, it keeps me from crashing
5
1.87%
Could care less one way or another
11
4.10%
Annoying, but tolerable
49
18.28%
Really Annoying - worst "feature" of the car
161
60.07%
Untolerable - Major factor keeping me from purchasing a Lexus
42
15.67%
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Lexus NAVI Lockout
11-09-07, 12:08 PM
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11-11-07, 05:31 AM
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11-25-07, 08:23 PM
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Nav Hacking with 7.1
I recently upgraded from 5.1 and created a hybrid DVD using the old firmware off the 5.1 disk. Works like a champ. Oh, and $105 for 5 minutes of labor to change out the DVD is ridiculous. You grab the two little needle-like tools out of the tool kit, stick them into the nav-DVD cover and pop it off. Eject old DVD, insert new, turn on car and drive away. Just don't forget to put the cover back on. (sorry, forgot to mention that for an IS350; not sure how to access the LS DVD).
11-26-07, 09:36 PM
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He mentioned that this was with an IS 350, so that procedure would work for all DVD NAVI-equipped Lexus models, which however does not include the LS 460. The LS 430 does use a DVD NAVI system but it came with generation 4 software.
11-27-07, 08:21 AM
#54
Lexus Test Driver
I would think that anyone wanting to find a software crack for the lockout issue on the LS460 would have to first get access to an update disk, so he could copy the .bat and .ini files. Unless, of course, there's some way to download them directly from the HDD.
I figure that somewhere in there is a command that says "If VSS speed > 0, then entry functions not enabled". Of course, it'll say it in C++ or Fortran or whatever, but someone who knows his stuff could write a simple routine to disable that command.
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I figure that somewhere in there is a command that says "If VSS speed > 0, then entry functions not enabled". Of course, it'll say it in C++ or Fortran or whatever, but someone who knows his stuff could write a simple routine to disable that command.
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11-28-07, 08:01 PM
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I would think that anyone wanting to find a software crack for the lockout issue on the LS460 would have to first get access to an update disk, so he could copy the .bat and .ini files. Unless, of course, there's some way to download them directly from the HDD.
I figure that somewhere in there is a command that says "If VSS speed > 0, then entry functions not enabled". Of course, it'll say it in C++ or Fortran or whatever, but someone who knows his stuff could write a simple routine to disable that command.
I figure that somewhere in there is a command that says "If VSS speed > 0, then entry functions not enabled". Of course, it'll say it in C++ or Fortran or whatever, but someone who knows his stuff could write a simple routine to disable that command.
But, it won't do me much good...Pulled the trigger on a 2008 GS460 this week. Just need to wait for it to come off the ship, which apparently is already in LA or Long Beach somewhere. I'd love to go sit there and watch them drive it off the damn ship. Anyone else think that would be neat?
Anyway, I guess I'll be changing threads, but I'll keep an eye on y'all over here!
12-16-07, 09:50 PM
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Moderator: LFA, Clubhouse
The rest of your argument was well-explained, Darryl. Even if certain laws and regulations are introduced and legislated to protect us from idiots, it's always very annoying to those of us who are not.
12-27-07, 10:30 PM
#60
Nav lock out is stupid.
The entire concept of navigation systems is dated and I can easily think plausible replacements which would seriously evolve the way we interact (purposely OR naturally) with the car.
The first step would be to completely open up the specs of the electronics to home-hackers. In the last few decades car nuts have gone from being engine heads to electronic heads.
Right off the bat that would give you customizable POS locations. I could imagine every company would want to easily offer a downloadable list of all their locations so you could show their locations on your navigation screen.
Make new navigation data wirelessly and user updatable. Just make the dealer the source of the authenticated + secured location (or if you have a server in the house if you download the appropriately sealed key).
Oh man imagine how awesome it would be if on the hybrid Lexuses, if it knew your route and knew where the stoplights were, it would optimize the efficiency of when to use the gas engine versus when to simply use the electrical engine.
The entire concept of navigation systems is dated and I can easily think plausible replacements which would seriously evolve the way we interact (purposely OR naturally) with the car.
The first step would be to completely open up the specs of the electronics to home-hackers. In the last few decades car nuts have gone from being engine heads to electronic heads.
Right off the bat that would give you customizable POS locations. I could imagine every company would want to easily offer a downloadable list of all their locations so you could show their locations on your navigation screen.
Make new navigation data wirelessly and user updatable. Just make the dealer the source of the authenticated + secured location (or if you have a server in the house if you download the appropriately sealed key).
Oh man imagine how awesome it would be if on the hybrid Lexuses, if it knew your route and knew where the stoplights were, it would optimize the efficiency of when to use the gas engine versus when to simply use the electrical engine.