Is this a good price on a LS 460
07-24-07, 04:42 PM
#1
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Is this a good price on a LS 460
I am trying to figure out what is the cheapest I can get a new LS 460. I'm in no rush to buy and the dealer knows that. I'm hoping to get a good deal on the 07 as they make room for the 08.
Please give me all the knowledge you can on this. Thank you in advance.
Price: $63,792 + TTT
Standard Features:
Performance Features
- 4.6-liter V8, four cam, four valves per cylinder, with dual Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i)
- 380 hp @ 6,400 rpm [1], 367 lb-ft torque @ 4,100 rpm [1]
- Eight-speed sequential-shift automatic Electronically Controlled Transmission with intelligence (ECT-i)
- Front suspension: Independent, upper and lower multi-link double joint suspension arms with coil-over monotube shock absorbers and stabilizer bar
- Rear: Independent, multi-link double joint suspension arms with coil-over monotube shock absorbers and stabilizer bar
- Rear-wheel drive
- Electronic Power Steering (EPS)
- Four-wheel ventilated electronic power-assisted disc brakes
- 18-in alloy wheels with 235/50R18 V-rated tires [2][3]
- Estimated fuel consumption: 19/27 mpg city/highway [4] (manufacturer's estimate)
Luxury And Convenience Features
- Medium brown walnut, dark gray bird's-eye maple or dark brown ash burl interior wood trim
- Leather-trimmed interior
- Wood- and leather-trimmed steering wheel
- Steering-wheel-mounted audio, brake hold and display controls
- Power tilt-and-telescopic steering column
- Lexus 10-speaker Premium Sound System with Digital Sound Processor, Automatic Sound Levelizer (ASL) and in-dash, single-feed, six-disc CD auto-changer
- In-glass antenna with FM-diversity system
- 16-way driver's (including dual-function lumbar) and 12-way front passenger's (including lumbar) power seats
- Heated Front Seats
- Lexus Memory System to control power driver's and front passenger's seats (except lumbar), outside mirrors and steering wheel
- Dual-zone automatic climate control with interior air filter, smog sensor and automatic recirculation mode
- Power tilt-and-slide moonroof with one-touch open/close and sliding sunshade
- Power windows with one-touch auto open/close feature
- Exterior glass with UV reduction
- Remote-linked window and moonroof opening
- Retained accessory power for moonroof and windows
- Electrochromic (auto-dimming) inside rearview mirror and outside mirrors
- Power door locks
- Cruise control
- SmartAccess [5] with push-button Start/Stop
- Center console with sliding armrest and storage bin
- Foldable front door storage pockets
- HomeLink® universal transceiver to operate compatible garage, gate, home lighting and home security systems
- Illuminated entry system
- Electroluminescent instrumentation
- Illuminated interior electronic trunk-lid and fuel-filler door releases
- Front and rear lighted vanity mirrors
- Automatic on/off projector-beam headlamps with auto-off delay
- Electronic parking brake
- Outside temperature gauge
- Fuel consumption gauge
- Dual cupholders, front and rear
- Carpeted floor mats
Safety Features
- Driver's and front passenger's advanced airbag system (SRS) [6] with front passenger's twin-chamber airbag
- Front seat-mounted side airbags (SRS) [6]
- Driver's and front passenger's knee airbags (SRS) [6]
- Front and rear side curtain airbags (SRS) [6]
- Three-point seatbelts for all seating positions, pre-tensioners with force limiters for front and outboard rear seats
- Automatic Locking Retractor/Emergency Locking Retractor (ALR/ELR) seatbelts for all passenger seating positions. Emergency Locking Retractor (ELR) only for driver's seat
- Child Restraint Seat (CRS) tether anchor brackets for rear outboard seating positions
- Four-wheel ventilated power-assisted disc brakes
- Electronic Controlled Braking (ECB)
- Four-sensor, four-channel Anti-lock Braking System (ABS)
- Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM) [7]
- Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) [8]
- Traction Control (TRAC)
- Brake Assist [9]
- Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD)
- Tire Pressure Monitor System [10]
- Highly rigid body structure with front and rear crumple zones
- Side-impact door beams
- Reinforcements in pillars and doorsills
- Impact-dissipating upper interior trim
- Collapsible steering column
- High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps with dynamic auto leveling
- Dual-swivel Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS)
- Headlamp washers
- Daytime running lights
- Integrated foglamps
- LED taillamps
- Water-repellent front-door glass
- Rain-sensing intermittent windshield wipers with mist cycle
- Rear window defogger with auto-off timer
- Power-adjustable, auto-folding outside mirrors with defoggers, puddle lamps and auto tilt-down in reverse
- Vehicle theft-deterrent and engine immobilizer system
- Emergency interior trunk release
- First aid kit
- Tool kit
Additional Features:
Lexus voice-activated HDD Navigation System with Additional Options $5,527.00
Lexus voice-activated HDD Navigation System includes:
- Backup camera
- Bluetooth® technology
- XM® Satellite Radio and Real-Time Traffic capability
Additional Options:
- Comfort Package
- Intuitive Parking Assist
- Power door closers and power rear trunk
- Preferred Accessory Package (includes Cargo net, Trunk mat and Wheel locks)
Please give me all the knowledge you can on this. Thank you in advance.
Price: $63,792 + TTT
Standard Features:
Performance Features
- 4.6-liter V8, four cam, four valves per cylinder, with dual Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i)
- 380 hp @ 6,400 rpm [1], 367 lb-ft torque @ 4,100 rpm [1]
- Eight-speed sequential-shift automatic Electronically Controlled Transmission with intelligence (ECT-i)
- Front suspension: Independent, upper and lower multi-link double joint suspension arms with coil-over monotube shock absorbers and stabilizer bar
- Rear: Independent, multi-link double joint suspension arms with coil-over monotube shock absorbers and stabilizer bar
- Rear-wheel drive
- Electronic Power Steering (EPS)
- Four-wheel ventilated electronic power-assisted disc brakes
- 18-in alloy wheels with 235/50R18 V-rated tires [2][3]
- Estimated fuel consumption: 19/27 mpg city/highway [4] (manufacturer's estimate)
Luxury And Convenience Features
- Medium brown walnut, dark gray bird's-eye maple or dark brown ash burl interior wood trim
- Leather-trimmed interior
- Wood- and leather-trimmed steering wheel
- Steering-wheel-mounted audio, brake hold and display controls
- Power tilt-and-telescopic steering column
- Lexus 10-speaker Premium Sound System with Digital Sound Processor, Automatic Sound Levelizer (ASL) and in-dash, single-feed, six-disc CD auto-changer
- In-glass antenna with FM-diversity system
- 16-way driver's (including dual-function lumbar) and 12-way front passenger's (including lumbar) power seats
- Heated Front Seats
- Lexus Memory System to control power driver's and front passenger's seats (except lumbar), outside mirrors and steering wheel
- Dual-zone automatic climate control with interior air filter, smog sensor and automatic recirculation mode
- Power tilt-and-slide moonroof with one-touch open/close and sliding sunshade
- Power windows with one-touch auto open/close feature
- Exterior glass with UV reduction
- Remote-linked window and moonroof opening
- Retained accessory power for moonroof and windows
- Electrochromic (auto-dimming) inside rearview mirror and outside mirrors
- Power door locks
- Cruise control
- SmartAccess [5] with push-button Start/Stop
- Center console with sliding armrest and storage bin
- Foldable front door storage pockets
- HomeLink® universal transceiver to operate compatible garage, gate, home lighting and home security systems
- Illuminated entry system
- Electroluminescent instrumentation
- Illuminated interior electronic trunk-lid and fuel-filler door releases
- Front and rear lighted vanity mirrors
- Automatic on/off projector-beam headlamps with auto-off delay
- Electronic parking brake
- Outside temperature gauge
- Fuel consumption gauge
- Dual cupholders, front and rear
- Carpeted floor mats
Safety Features
- Driver's and front passenger's advanced airbag system (SRS) [6] with front passenger's twin-chamber airbag
- Front seat-mounted side airbags (SRS) [6]
- Driver's and front passenger's knee airbags (SRS) [6]
- Front and rear side curtain airbags (SRS) [6]
- Three-point seatbelts for all seating positions, pre-tensioners with force limiters for front and outboard rear seats
- Automatic Locking Retractor/Emergency Locking Retractor (ALR/ELR) seatbelts for all passenger seating positions. Emergency Locking Retractor (ELR) only for driver's seat
- Child Restraint Seat (CRS) tether anchor brackets for rear outboard seating positions
- Four-wheel ventilated power-assisted disc brakes
- Electronic Controlled Braking (ECB)
- Four-sensor, four-channel Anti-lock Braking System (ABS)
- Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management (VDIM) [7]
- Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) [8]
- Traction Control (TRAC)
- Brake Assist [9]
- Electronic Brakeforce Distribution (EBD)
- Tire Pressure Monitor System [10]
- Highly rigid body structure with front and rear crumple zones
- Side-impact door beams
- Reinforcements in pillars and doorsills
- Impact-dissipating upper interior trim
- Collapsible steering column
- High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps with dynamic auto leveling
- Dual-swivel Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS)
- Headlamp washers
- Daytime running lights
- Integrated foglamps
- LED taillamps
- Water-repellent front-door glass
- Rain-sensing intermittent windshield wipers with mist cycle
- Rear window defogger with auto-off timer
- Power-adjustable, auto-folding outside mirrors with defoggers, puddle lamps and auto tilt-down in reverse
- Vehicle theft-deterrent and engine immobilizer system
- Emergency interior trunk release
- First aid kit
- Tool kit
Additional Features:
Lexus voice-activated HDD Navigation System with Additional Options $5,527.00
Lexus voice-activated HDD Navigation System includes:
- Backup camera
- Bluetooth® technology
- XM® Satellite Radio and Real-Time Traffic capability
Additional Options:
- Comfort Package
- Intuitive Parking Assist
- Power door closers and power rear trunk
- Preferred Accessory Package (includes Cargo net, Trunk mat and Wheel locks)
Last edited by USCRugby; 07-24-07 at 04:50 PM.
07-24-07, 06:02 PM
#2
Considering most dealers are lucky to have more than 2 or 3 on the lot, I don't think they'll have trouble making room of the '08's.
You might be able to get a deal on a demo.
From what you listed, it looks like the MSRP of that car is $69,822. Dealer cost is $60,220 (not including a $1220 hold back). I have no idea what the NC market is like. If you have several dealers in your area you can do better than if there is only one or two. Generally a decent deal would be about $5 to $6K over dealer invoice, better if there's competition in your area, worse if there isn't.
You might be able to get a deal on a demo.From what you listed, it looks like the MSRP of that car is $69,822. Dealer cost is $60,220 (not including a $1220 hold back). I have no idea what the NC market is like. If you have several dealers in your area you can do better than if there is only one or two. Generally a decent deal would be about $5 to $6K over dealer invoice, better if there's competition in your area, worse if there isn't.
07-24-07, 06:11 PM
#3
i don't follow prices on the swb much so i can't say
but if you want 07, try to get it these two months i think. lexus is pretty smart on doing allocation, it's rare to see them overstock with 07 when the 08 is out. they have already slowed down production on 07 so i bet 08 will be here in the coming 2-3 months. and due to the fewer allocation, prices will stay a bit strong
but if you want 07, try to get it these two months i think. lexus is pretty smart on doing allocation, it's rare to see them overstock with 07 when the 08 is out. they have already slowed down production on 07 so i bet 08 will be here in the coming 2-3 months. and due to the fewer allocation, prices will stay a bit strong
07-24-07, 07:05 PM
#4
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Considering most dealers are lucky to have more than 2 or 3 on the lot, I don't think they'll have trouble making room of the '08's. You might be able to get a deal on a demo.
From what you listed, it looks like the MSRP of that car is $69,822. Dealer cost is $60,220 (not including a $1220 hold back). I have no idea what the NC market is like. If you have several dealers in your area you can do better than if there is only one or two. Generally a decent deal would be about $5 to $6K over dealer invoice, better if there's competition in your area, worse if there isn't.
You might be able to get a deal on a demo.From what you listed, it looks like the MSRP of that car is $69,822. Dealer cost is $60,220 (not including a $1220 hold back). I have no idea what the NC market is like. If you have several dealers in your area you can do better than if there is only one or two. Generally a decent deal would be about $5 to $6K over dealer invoice, better if there's competition in your area, worse if there isn't.
It would be nice if I can get them to sell for 61000
07-24-07, 09:51 PM
#5
You can get dealer costs at edmunds.com, kbb.com, nadaguides.com, and at Consumer Reports (for a fee and not really worth it since they're all the same prices except CR gives you the hold back and I already told you).
You can offer $61K, but don't take it personally if they laugh you out of the dealership. I don't even think they'll sell a demo that cheaply. But hey, its worth a try, all they can do is say no ........ and laugh!
Good luck, let us know what happens.
You can offer $61K, but don't take it personally if they laugh you out of the dealership. I don't even think they'll sell a demo that cheaply. But hey, its worth a try, all they can do is say no ........ and laugh!
Good luck, let us know what happens.
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07-26-07, 08:19 AM
#8
You're right Rominl. Once a car sells, the manufacturer gives the dealer 2 to 3% of the base MSRP. American manufacturers and Mercedes pay 3%, and BMW and the Japanese pay 2% to the dealer.
This holdback amount is generally never negotiable, but its good to be aware when bargaining that this is additional profit to the dealer.
This holdback amount is generally never negotiable, but its good to be aware when bargaining that this is additional profit to the dealer.
07-29-07, 07:24 PM
#13
An arm and a leg.
All I know is the transportation went up $50.
All I know is the transportation went up $50.
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