LS600h Transfer Case Failure
12-09-15, 08:25 AM
#31
Instructor
Every now and then a car sidesteps it's intended span because people are willing to go to insane measures to restore or preserve them. If any Lexus has a chance at being collectible the LS600hL with any mileage has good aim. Think NSX, ZR1, Z06, 560SEC, AMG, Pullman or Maybach trims. The LS600hL may get more support from technicians and corporate because of what it represents.
Last edited by superdenso; 12-09-15 at 10:20 AM.
12-09-15, 10:24 AM
#32
Lexus Fanatic
None of that has anything to do with this issue.
12-09-15, 10:50 AM
#33
Lexus Test Driver
Not only are all of them assumptions, he has done not one thing to support what he said.
As you said, the LS600h L is simply a hybrid version. There is no magic involved with it that allows it to transcend age, time, and mileage.
As you said, the LS600h L is simply a hybrid version. There is no magic involved with it that allows it to transcend age, time, and mileage.
12-09-15, 12:30 PM
#34
Instructor
LS600 was released in 2007, and a rival was not offered by any other make. It's not like discovering electricity, but more like revealing the first light bulb. These words may get you all upset, but they should encourage you to reconsider.http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...exus-ls600h-l/
Last edited by superdenso; 12-09-15 at 12:41 PM.
12-09-15, 12:55 PM
#35
Instructor
12-09-15, 01:49 PM
#36
Instructor
I'm enjoying this line of dialog, even though it has strayed from the original poster's question...
I own a 2008 LS600hL and a 2002 SC430 (both are the first year for their respective model). I may be kidding myself, but I do hope that both eventually are recognized as "classics." Seems like when Lexus sets out to produce a new "flagship" model (like both the LS600 and the SC430), they really pour a ton of resources into the initial production launch to make a splash. Obviously, there were some production problems that have made themselves evident in the 2008 LS600s (issues also common to the main LS line, like control arms, wind noise, etc.). There were fewer problems with the original SC430s. Both of these models, though, are proving to be amazingly reliable and durable, despite their age (and I do agree that older, higher mileage cars do tend to have more maintenance requirements, no matter how well engineered).
I own a 2008 LS600hL and a 2002 SC430 (both are the first year for their respective model). I may be kidding myself, but I do hope that both eventually are recognized as "classics." Seems like when Lexus sets out to produce a new "flagship" model (like both the LS600 and the SC430), they really pour a ton of resources into the initial production launch to make a splash. Obviously, there were some production problems that have made themselves evident in the 2008 LS600s (issues also common to the main LS line, like control arms, wind noise, etc.). There were fewer problems with the original SC430s. Both of these models, though, are proving to be amazingly reliable and durable, despite their age (and I do agree that older, higher mileage cars do tend to have more maintenance requirements, no matter how well engineered).
12-09-15, 01:51 PM
#37
Advanced
12-09-15, 04:59 PM
#38
Jerold, I would escalate this a little further up the chain at Lexus. Don't accept what an initial service advisor tells you. He/she has limited flexibility. Ask to speak their boss.
In my opinion this is the kind of thing that Lexus can be very accommodating on. At the very least they can supply the parts while you pay the labor.
In my opinion this is the kind of thing that Lexus can be very accommodating on. At the very least they can supply the parts while you pay the labor.
12-09-15, 05:33 PM
#39
Lexus Fanatic
12-10-15, 12:05 PM
#40
Instructor
On a more serious note...
As cars and their components continue to improve, 5yr/60k warranties will exit stage left. Hyundai offered 10/100 and it won't be too long before Honda and Toyota raise them to 20/200. Just like the 3k oil change is near finished, and the 5k oil change is laughable. Progression will "move the chains down-field" and put major stress on aftermarket warranty companies that used to get the business between 60 and 150K. Check out the links below:
http://www.thomasvilletoyota.com/warranty
http://www.kiaofmankato.com/20-year-...-mile-faq.html
http://www.thomasvilletoyota.com/warranty
http://www.kiaofmankato.com/20-year-...-mile-faq.html
12-10-15, 12:07 PM
#41
Lexus Fanatic
Again...none of that has anything to do with my point. There currently is no 20 year 200k warranty, so I'm not sure what your point is.
12-10-15, 12:14 PM
#42
Instructor
The point is cars do not break down after 100k like they used to and businesses are willing to put their money where their actuaries' and accountants' mouths are.
SW-please don't continue to be the guy that needs the ABC/123 explanation just so you can bump-up your post #'s. It's not just about your point, it's about an old idea that has faded long ago. The ole' "Don't drive the car because soon it will have a lot of miles and breakdown" fear tactic should be allowed to retire without kickin' and screamin'
SW-please don't continue to be the guy that needs the ABC/123 explanation just so you can bump-up your post #'s. It's not just about your point, it's about an old idea that has faded long ago. The ole' "Don't drive the car because soon it will have a lot of miles and breakdown" fear tactic should be allowed to retire without kickin' and screamin'
Last edited by superdenso; 12-10-15 at 12:54 PM.
12-10-15, 01:52 PM
#43
Lexus Fanatic
Lol, I'm not saying that the car is going to break down all the time or be unreliable. Well maintained LS's can be reliable for double that mileage or more. What I am saying is that as cars get older, failures happen and that an 8 year old 130k mile is an older car, and one should not be surprised when there are non maintenance repairs that need to be made. Lexus IS good about covering some stuff on older cars for good customers, but they don't have to do that and you can't count on that.
I'm not denigrating the car at all, I'm just saying that people who buy these things when they are older need to understand that a 130k mile LS is not going to be 100% problem free. It's not a new car, it's been driven 5 times around the circumference of the earth...
You have yet to say anything that would refute that.
I'm not denigrating the car at all, I'm just saying that people who buy these things when they are older need to understand that a 130k mile LS is not going to be 100% problem free. It's not a new car, it's been driven 5 times around the circumference of the earth...
You have yet to say anything that would refute that.
12-10-15, 04:08 PM
#44
When I was at the dealer last summer for air shock replacement another ls600h was also in the shop for a transfer case replacement but as I can remember it had quite less mileage than the op ls600h. As the owner found the 6000$+ repair cost quite outrageous, I think he managed to find a used one on ebay and pay them only the labor. But that does point out at another potential weak spot on the ls600h.
