Joeb427

iTrader: (1)

I don't put much faith in customer surveys.I'm not surprised the P7 is rated higher than the Michelins.
I believe it's because the P7's are much cheaper.
I have the Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus on a '15 Sonata and find they're not as quiet as I hoped but an improvement over the stock Kumho tires.
I'm sorry I didn't go with the Michelin Primacy MXV4 that were available that I've bought a couple of times before.
Thought I save $140 and because of some reviews I went woith the P7's.I wish I would have bought the MXV4's which were quieter.Would have gone for the Premiere's if only available too.

DJWLDW

CRowe15

On the side of each tire it is stamped DOT and to the right is an oval stamp with the code. The first 2 digits are the week of the year they were made and the last 2 digits are the year they were made. The tires that came into Costco were 3314 which mean they were made in the 33nd week of 2014.

Dennis

CRowe14

Excellent feedback!
And thank you kindly!

chpten8

Howdy! Let me assist you a little on one of the issues that you posted, the garage door, the only reason that the button needs to be held is because the sensors are no longer closing the loop, both sensors on your door have a green light when the loop is closed simply play with them and adjust them until the lights are on. They move over time with garage door vibrations or when bumped. They are located at the bottom of the tracks of the garage door when closed (affixed to the house) hope that helps!!!!

7milesout

Thanks. I'm aware of how it works. But I don't believe it is their aim. I've messed with them. I think one of them is "busted." Plus the overhead unit is flashing what seems like a code. I think it is 4, over and over. Should be easy enough when I get time for it.

As for my tires. I only bring "the prom queen" out when it's nice (for now). Plus the winters are very mild in GA. I wouldn't hesitate to run the LS around Road Atlanta at a very spirited pace (been around that track hundreds of times). Just not spirited in the rain. Lest I find myself off the track and muddy and maybe damaged. I'm ok with the originals for now.

If it is predicted to rain this weekend, the LSBMX will have it's contents switched back to the tank.

Ironman50

This is a great thread with good information. I own a 2008 GS 350 RWD 18 in tires and time to replace my Conti Extreme Contact DWS tires that have 33K miles - tread wear on outside is great but in the center I have flat spots which are making the tires very noisy especially on the highway. Had my decision between Conti Pure Contact EcoPlus vs. Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus (which I have owned in the past but terrible in snow). Made decision to go with Conti until I found this thread especially comments from DJWLDW. Now seriously considering this Pirelli Cinturato P7 tire.......LS430Lover - Michelin tire you recommend does not come in my size. Any thoughts / comments / suggestions would be appreciated.

Nospinzone

I have the Conti Pure Contact Eco Plus on my LS now, and the Bridgestone Turanza Serenity Plus are on my wife's Jag S-Type. I had the Pirelli P Zero Nero on my car and loved them for their wet traction properties. I tend to drive as fast in wet weather as in dry, so that was a major factor for me in selecting the Pirellis. They were top rated by both Tire Rack and Consumer Reports for wet traction. Then when it came time to replace them I noticed that Tire Rack downgraded them a little, so I got the Contis.

I like the Contis, they are a good tire, good handling and quiet. However, their wet traction is no where near the Pirelli. I was just driving in pouring rain today and was cursing the fact that I didn't have Pirellis on the car. In my opinion if you don't drive aggressively in the rain, then the Conti is a good tire. Ironically I didn't find the Pirelli any better in snow than the Conti.

I don't drive my wife's car much, so I don't have any real feedback to give you on those tires. They do give a comfortable ride and they are quiet.

I know another poster has praised the Michelin. I've never had them on my cars, but I have bought them for my wife's car (I think the Primacy models).. They are like the Contis in that they wear well, have decent handling, are quiet, and wear well. I have heard a lot of praise for the Pilot Sport tires from Ferrari drivers, so I am going to replace my Pirelli P Zeros with the Michelins next time I need to replace tires on the 612.

Ironman50

Nospinzone, thanks for the feedback / comments.

SW17LS

The issue here is finding something that comes in the LS' stock sizes. If it were between the Michelin Primacy MXV4 and the Pirelli P7 Plus, I would choose the Michelin, because I have had good experience with those tires on these cars (had them on both LSs [well the older Energy MXV4 on the 98] and on both ES's), but you cannot get those tires in the LS's size...or really anywhere as they are being phased out.

You CAN get the Primacy MXM4, which I had OEM on the GS. They're an okay tire, but I don't feel they're the tire I'm looking for on the LS. They are also about $100 more per tire than the P7s. I didn't feel compelled to get another set on the GS when the OEM ones wore out.

I want the best riding, quietest tire I can get for this car.

I'm also not sold on the Premier as a replacement for the Primacy MXV4. I have read many reviews of people who had the MXV4 and replaced them with the Primacy to find they rode harder and were louder, including a few that swapped them back for new Primacy MXV4 and were happy. We CAN get the Premier with a slight change in size, but since the tire isn't a runaway slam dunk IMHO I don't want to deal with the issue of a non stock size.

So, I'm a little concerned but I still think I'm going to get the P7s for lack of anything better to choose. The car is pretty darn quiet on the Bridgestones though, which I know to be a TERRIBLE tire. I'm sure better tires will improve things and dampen some of that sharp expansion joint feel I get. I may just wait until spring...

roadfrog

Fair enough. Here's are non-customer reviews on both tires:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=188

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=188

Consumer Reports also placed the P7 ahead of the Michelin MXV4 in the V rated category:
MXV4

But let's face it, these are both very good tires and I'd have no issue mounting either of them on my ride. The deciding factor would be the price.

Joeb427

iTrader: (1)

I really did love the MXV4's I had on two ES350,though.

7milesout

Since my last post above (9/29) complaining about everything breaking, furace #1 of 2 crapped out just prior to Thanksgiving, and now the microwave is giving indications it has had enough.

The furnace is original & 25 years old. I witnessed the failure and determined by the sound of what I heard, the failure to be either a burned starter capacitor, or the blower motor itself. Long story short, I found a technician interested in doing some "side" work for Christmas cash. He said the unit was so old, it had no capacitor, just a relay. Replaced the relay, then the motor threw sparks.

My choice was a new furnace ($2,200) or a replacement motor for $600 - $650 (which was hard to justify on a 25 year old system). I wound up getting the motor replaced for $350 just after Thanksgiving. I'll limp along on the 25 year old system.

I figure the ($2,200 - $350 =) $1,850 I saved is enough to justify buying the Pirelli's for myself as a Christmas gift!


7milesout

SW17LS

There ya go!

thegov3

*** UPDATE ***

Well I finally purchased the Pirelli CINTURATO P7 plus. I have about 2500 miles on them. I ended my Michelin love affair after my third set of Michelin Pilot HX MXM4. To be fair, the Pilots were Z rated and the Pirelli's are W rated. I can tell a difference between the two tires, some good and some bad:

Compared to the Michelin Pilot HX MXM4:
Good:
Cheaper, bought at Sams Club and saved about $50 a tire compared to their price for Michelin Pilot HX MXM4 (had to order them)
Just as quiet, if not slightly better noise wise. Zero hum. Love that. .
Rain and wet road handling is better, especially on turns
Softer ride

Bad:
Turnin and cornering not as tight. Some squeal if pushed hard. Roll over is easy to achieve with any acceleration and hard braking in turn.
Wonders on the interstate at highway speed some, but not horrible.
Not as sporty looking, actually ugly compared to the Pilots (subjective, I know)


Again, same size tire, just not as stiff of sidewall and I can tell a huge difference. If you are used to a "Sport" tire I would not buy the Pirelli CINTURATO P7 plus. If you want a quiet, soft and very good wet tire, go for it. Feels like a Buick tire....at least my LS 460 AWD drives like a Buick now. Which for some, may be good. Not me. Not disappointed in the purchase, it is what it is. I just wish the sidewall was stiffer. Then it would be a homerun. No snow yet here in Kansas, will update after I drive in snow.

SW17LS

If the sidewall was stiffer, it wouldn't be the same tire.

The tire you want in the Pirelli line is the PZERO Allseason Plus. That's a stiffer side walled better handling tire.

If that's what you want you should return the P7 and get them. They have a better looking nice sportier sidewall too.