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C...c...COLD! My LS460 doesnt heat up

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Old 11-05-12, 06:13 PM
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You have a coolant leak. In the few years I have worked for Lexus, I have yet to see a failed thermostat. If I had to bet it's the waterpump.
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i been having the same problem,took the car to the dealer today the told me my water pumps bad...my car has 53k and the water pumps bad already wow
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Classic Sign of water pump failure. Instead of moving coolant, its just swishing it around.

Mine was replaced at 50K and they broke the radiator when they were replacing it. So I got both for free.
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Weird. I would have thought that a failure of the water pump would result in the car overheating, or at least higher than normal temps?

My problem was resolved by running the car at 2k RPM for 5 mins with the radiator cap off and me keeping the tank topped up to max.
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Originally Posted by jimxms2
Weird. I would have thought that a failure of the water pump would result in the car overheating, or at least higher than normal temps?

My problem was resolved by running the car at 2k RPM for 5 mins with the radiator cap off and me keeping the tank topped up to max.
It moves enough though the engine but maybe not enough to the heater core. Eventually it will overheat.
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Originally Posted by CMY4D
You have a coolant leak. In the few years I have worked for Lexus, I have yet to see a failed thermostat. If I had to bet it's the waterpump.
CMY4D, my observation is that LS460 does not have a metal radiator cap on the radiator itself as most cars do. The cap on the plastic overflow reservoir functions to pressurize the cooling system, thus eliminates the need to have a traditional radiator cap on the radiator itself. But if the cooling system is drained such as when replacing coolant as a routine maintenance, how do you refill the cooling system with new coolant? Simply dumping coolant to the plastic reservoir won't direct the coolant to the radiator, will it? I think the reservoir cap is at a lower point than the top of the radiator but I might be wrong. I assume you're a Lexus tech and hope you can shed some light. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by vasy
CMY4D, my observation is that LS460 does not have a metal radiator cap on the radiator itself as most cars do. The cap on the plastic overflow reservoir functions to pressurize the cooling system, thus eliminates the need to have a traditional radiator cap on the radiator itself. But if the cooling system is drained such as when replacing coolant as a routine maintenance, how do you refill the cooling system with new coolant? Simply dumping coolant to the plastic reservoir won't direct the coolant to the radiator, will it? I think the reservoir cap is at a lower point than the top of the radiator but I might be wrong. I assume you're a Lexus tech and hope you can shed some light. Thanks.
I'm no Lex tech, but if it was me I'd start filling the rad up from the bleed screw located in front of the top radiator hose.

It's not a massive hole once you remove the screw, but you could easily fit a decent size funnel in there.
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they did it for free for me too,under the 6years ,70000 miles warranty,,got it back the same day
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did you ever find the problem, I think we have a problem on hand that seems to match everyone description.

On the ISF there is a transfer pipe to the heat exchange (same like the LS460) seems to be a small leak from there making all this pink crust under the intake manifold.. It leaks so slowly that you don't see it anywhere on the floor.

ISF uses the same engine as ls460 just tuned.... in the F section we are talking about the same problem.
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Originally Posted by zazzn
did you ever find the problem, I think we have a problem on hand that seems to match everyone description.

On the ISF there is a transfer pipe to the heat exchange (same like the LS460) seems to be a small leak from there making all this pink crust under the intake manifold.. It leaks so slowly that you don't see it anywhere on the floor.

ISF uses the same engine as ls460 just tuned.... in the F section we are talking about the same problem.
No I never really got to the bottom of it to be honest. I thought at first it was due to a low coolant level but I think my car has a natural coolant level just above the -low- mark. I can top it up every day and it goes back to -low- or leave it months and it stays in the same place.

Do you have a link to the ISF thread so I can follow?

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Old 01-19-14, 01:12 PM
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so are we certain its the waterpump? i'm having the same issue regardless of engine temp or runtime it only blows warm while car is in motion (for 5 mins or more) cars never overheated or had any temp issues..only noticed a week or so ago as its not usually cold in fl...now i'll need to address it..wife was in the car yesterday we drove around all morn (with heat) stop at buddies to look at his car (an hr later with her inside the car and engine running it was ice cold) drove off and boom heat again......waterpumps cheap enough but i wanna know for certain thats the issue
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Originally Posted by zazzn
did you ever find the problem, I think we have a problem on hand that seems to match everyone description.

On the ISF there is a transfer pipe to the heat exchange (same like the LS460) seems to be a small leak from there making all this pink crust under the intake manifold.. It leaks so slowly that you don't see it anywhere on the floor.

ISF uses the same engine as ls460 just tuned.... in the F section we are talking about the same problem.
It's based on the 460 but not the same engine in a lot of respects. The engine in the 600h is closer to what is in the ISF.
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Originally Posted by jimxms2
No I never really got to the bottom of it to be honest. I thought at first it was due to a low coolant level but I think my car has a natural coolant level just above the -low- mark. I can top it up every day and it goes back to -low- or leave it months and it stays in the same place.

Do you have a link to the ISF thread so I can follow?

Cheers
It's very difficult to know if the car is leaking coolant by looking at the coolant reservoir until it is near empty.
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Originally Posted by jmcraney
I don't know much about this so I hope that I am telling you right. That nylon tank that you refer to as the "coolant resevoir" is the equivalent of the coolant resovoir that is the upper part of more conventional radiators. And the cap on that tank is equivalent to the radiator cap that we see on older models. If your cap is missing then it is unlikely that your car can contain the coolant when it heats up. The cap is designed to provide pressurization, which increases the boiling point, for the coolant when it gets hot and prevents a vacuum when the coolant cools, just like the radiator caps of old. If your cap is missing then that will be a problem. And if some sort of cap has been substituted then that will be a problem. The cap has a definite "click" when it is correctly tightened and that is important. Just like the older radiators, you should only remove the cap when the car is cold and you should only add liquid when the car is cold.

Such sound advice. I just DIY replaced the thermostat and radiator assembly in my 2007 LS460. First DIY! All OEM parts. Searching the forums to find tips, hints, troubleshooting. Thanks for the in depth informative descriptions. Gold mine for a fan like me.
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Originally Posted by CMY4D
You have a coolant leak. In the few years I have worked for Lexus, I have yet to see a failed thermostat. If I had to bet it's the waterpump.
Interesting... Car over heated here in the AZ summer 06/2020. Dealing service said needs new thermostat and radiator. 2007 LS460 127k... Just wrapped the DIY. Test driving tomorrow.


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