LS - 3rd Gen (2001-2006) Discussion topics related to the flagship Lexus LS430

Oops - Spark plug wire

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-04-15, 11:26 AM
  #1  
tradosauru
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
tradosauru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 675
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default Oops - Spark plug wire

I was trying to get the wiring connection of the back of one of the spark plug boots and all four wires pull out of the female base connector.

I have no idea how to get it back on.
Attached Thumbnails Oops - Spark plug wire-cop_wire_b.jpg   Oops - Spark plug wire-cop_wire_a.jpg  
Old 12-04-15, 11:32 AM
  #2  
KING
Lexus Test Driver

iTrader: (1)
 
KING's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: OR
Posts: 1,330
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

My friend rkw will shoot you a diagram in a few moments, I know it, he's that good :P

Why couldn't you compare it to the one right next to it?
Old 12-04-15, 12:28 PM
  #3  
tradosauru
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
tradosauru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 675
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by KING
My friend rkw will shoot you a diagram in a few moments, I know it, he's that good :P

Why couldn't you compare it to the one right next to it?
Believe it or not the wire colors are different from one to the next.

I think we did it thought I took those rubber inserts and pushed them in to the connector with a screw driver. Then I exposed a bit more wire on each one and shove them into each insert, hoping I had it in the correct order.

After starting the car I didn't see any error codes or feel any undue vibrations. So I then glued the wires into the rubber inserts.
Old 12-04-15, 01:34 PM
  #4  
rkw77080
Lexus Champion
 
rkw77080's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,186
Received 675 Likes on 462 Posts
Default

Hehe, the KING... I went one step further than diagram, I actually took a picture.

It sounds like the wires are back in the right place, but just in case, here's where they should go.

Old 12-04-15, 01:38 PM
  #5  
tradosauru
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
tradosauru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 675
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Thank you sir!

I inspected one of the spark plugs and i couldn't really tell if the spark plugs had ever been changed. Trying to get the electrical connectors off the coil on plugs were so difficult that it made me think that there had been no spark plug replacement.

Fortunately the local O'Reillys had 8 NGK replacements (crossovers to the OEM denso's) and a Gates serpentine belt.

Next week I will inspect brake pads, rotors and transmission fluid.

Last edited by tradosauru; 12-04-15 at 01:42 PM.
Old 12-06-15, 07:24 AM
  #6  
tradosauru
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
tradosauru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 675
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rkw77080
Hehe, the KING... I went one step further than diagram, I actually took a picture.

It sounds like the wires are back in the right place, but just in case, here's where they should go.
Is that picture for the #2 spark plug?

I had two codes come on this morning.
352
455 (pending)

I made sure the gas cap was on correctly (it was) and I reset the codes using a OBDII code reader and drove the car. Within 1 mile the code 352 popped up from the VSC idiot light. The car started running a little rough.

I suspect my "fix" for pulling out the wires on #2 spark plug didn't work. I think code 455 was because the electrical connector and vacuum hose was not plugged in on the bottom of the air filter housing. I plugged these back in.

If anyone has a picture of the #2 spark plug COP wires (if the one above is not it) I would appreciate it.

I might have to just buy the Ignition Coil Wiring Plug Pigtail. Anyone verify a part number or source?

Last edited by tradosauru; 12-06-15 at 08:08 AM.
Old 12-06-15, 11:19 AM
  #7  
tradosauru
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
tradosauru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 675
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Whatever you do don't pull the wires out of the 2 way female ignition coil plug connector.

I jerry rigged a connection until I get a replacement that I ordered from ebay.
Attached Thumbnails Oops - Spark plug wire-cop_wire_fix_b.jpg   Oops - Spark plug wire-cop_wire_fix_a.jpg   Oops - Spark plug wire-cop_wire_fix_c.jpg  
Old 12-06-15, 05:08 PM
  #8  
rkw77080
Lexus Champion
 
rkw77080's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,186
Received 675 Likes on 462 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by tradosauru
Is that picture for the #2 spark plug?
Yes, it's a picture of ignitor #2 on a 2004. Please note that wire colors are different for 2001-2003.

Old 12-12-15, 08:46 AM
  #9  
tradosauru
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
tradosauru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 675
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Still waiting to get the ignition coil 4 way wiring plug pigtail. I will use the heat shrink butt connectors.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-x-Connecto...pWBzkl&vxp=mtr

After a week of no issues with my temporary repair I got a P0352 error code and the car started stumbling.
Old 12-12-15, 01:48 PM
  #10  
tradosauru
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
tradosauru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 675
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

I tried a more permanent fix by soldering each wire to the female plug and then using shrink wrap butt connectors to connect to the 4 exposed wires in the engine. Got an immediate P0352 code so I'm going to have to wait for the part to come in i guess.
Old 12-12-15, 04:31 PM
  #11  
rkw77080
Lexus Champion
 
rkw77080's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,186
Received 675 Likes on 462 Posts
Default

To confirm that you have repaired the wiring correctly, following the procedure depicted below...

Old 12-12-15, 06:07 PM
  #12  
tradosauru
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
tradosauru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 675
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

I don't understand step (d); within 2 seconds of what?
Old 12-12-15, 07:23 PM
  #13  
rkw77080
Lexus Champion
 
rkw77080's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,186
Received 675 Likes on 462 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by tradosauru
I don't understand step (d); within 2 seconds of what?
I believe it means "for no more than 2 seconds".
Old 12-14-15, 05:35 PM
  #14  
tradosauru
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
tradosauru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 675
Received 21 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

Finally received the 4 wire female Coil On Plug today. I decided against using butt connectors because the wire on the engine side was so small that it would have been difficult to crimp and not really feel good that the metal was contacting the wire.

So my son, who is an electrical engineer, decided to twist the mating wires together, wrap in electrical tape, and then use a section of shrink tube around the electrical tape to make sure it wasn't going to come loose. It was a lot easier using a heat gun than trying to work a crimper tool in a tight space.

Before we put the electrical tape and shrink tube on we verified a good connection by starting the car. No codes and the car ran smoothly as it should.

Lesson learned; be careful when unplugging the COP female connector.
Attached Thumbnails Oops - Spark plug wire-cop_harness.jpg  
Old 11-13-16, 12:37 PM
  #15  
LS430inDE.
Racer
 
LS430inDE.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Delaware
Posts: 1,296
Received 71 Likes on 62 Posts
Default

I'm throwing a P0354 code Ignition Coil D Primary/Secondary Circuit.

I think that points to cylinder #4. Is that correct?

How are the cylinders numbered on our LS's? In other words, which cylinder is #4? Driver's side or passenger side, then closest to firewall or closest to front of engine, or somewhere in between? (I get confused when people say left or right, so please identify as driver's side bank or passenger's side bank).

Thank you.


Quick Reply: Oops - Spark plug wire



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:43 PM.