warminwisc

I need new skins for my 04 as my primacies with 65 k have 5/32 left, I need replacing for the Wisco winters. I can get the H rated Mxv4's or the Comfortred Touring by Goodyear V rated for sweet deals(Goodyears actually 175 bucks cheaper). Both are rated one/two on Tire rack in the Grand Touring All Season category. Will I notice a difference in speed rating, stiffer? or has anyone had both? I do drive pretty fast(sometimes 120 or so for short bursts 90 pretty regularly with my Escort) but the H rated Primacies have been fine. I cannot get the V rated Primacies on this sweet deal.

The Goodyear's are 70 k rated V tire, I would like to see that.

Jabberwock

Wow that's pretty strong mileage warranty for a V rated tire. I have no experience with Goodyear but if they were significantly less expensive I'd likely give them a try with that warranty and being V rated. All things being equal a V rate tire is generally better built because it has to stay together at significantly higher speeds. I have had V rated tires on some of my cars - they are built to roll very smooth and typically extremely well balanced and run cool at higher speeds. Lesser rated tires tend to run hot at higher speeds - and heat weakens the tire and can cause it to fail. If you try the GYs and don't like a lot of shops will let you swap for something else as long as you do so within a few days.

Bocatrip

Hands down for Primacys.I have the V rated for slightly better handling.

lennyd

To get that kind of milage the build has to be pretty rugged. IMHO I always worry that will cause a very stiff tire especially later on and Noise.

Purely my 2cents

Jabberwock

In the old days it was about whether you wanted to run hard rubber or soft rubber compounds on your tires. Soft rubber meant great handling and braking but poor wear/low miles. High mile tires meant hard rubber compounds that produced mediocre handling and braking especially in the winter cold. Not sure if that basic compromise/formula has changed in more modern tires - can you get great handling and smooth ride in a high mile tire?.

warminwisc

Mt LS is such a smooth dampened car I would be happy with a little crisper handling and ride though tires are a subtle way to achieve this. A bird in he hand...and I am sold on the primacies though you can see from the ratings on TR the Comfortred is neck and neck with satisfaction.

warminwisc

I had a discussion with a head tech at the Yota dealer about his choice of tires for the least amount of rebalancing and problems as my LS was getting an oil change in the quick lube. He said they had a Roadforce balancer and the tires he finds are the easiest to balance and keep balanced are Michelins by far. He said the Michelins will spec out at like a 4-5 over and some tires read out at a 30 and 30 is still acceptable for balancing. He said the only tires he will consider are Michelins for himself. I trust him alot as I speak with him often while I wait. He is the tech who does the frame replacements on Tacomas under rust warrantees, he said it is nice solid week and a half long work. I plan on scrapping the Goodyear buy, as he just rolled his eyes when I mentioned Goodyears, and doing the Vrated Primacies. I have close to 70 k on them and they all are at 6-7 32nd's so why change. 75 percent HWY miles

Now mind you they had alot of Michelins, Generals, Goodrich, Goodyears, Yoko's and others staged out in the garage and no Continentals or Pirellis or Toyo's.

V8_Fan

x2. I only get michelins now...will be getting a set of Pilot Alpin P3's for winter for the LS. When I replaced the OEM Bridgestone Dueler HT's on my wife's LX470, I got a set of Michelin LTX2's. One thing I noticed immediately was that while the Dueler's had pretty sizeable wheel weights (about 2.5" long, both on the outside and inside of the wheel), the michelins only require weights that are about half an inch long, and fewer of them. That says to me the Michelins are built to much higher tolerances. Ride-wise, the Michelins at 38psi ride about the same as the Duelers at 32 psi, but traction off-road is much better.

warminwisc

I took a risk with the 30 day guarantee and got the Goodyears(the 400 bucks left over will bolster up my quiver of DH skiis (Salomon TI Tornado with the 2 layers of Ti and a wood core looks like a possibility). So far at 50 miles am happy with them compared to my primacies pretty similar and they are really smooth and on asphalt quiet as a church mouse. No shakes unlike my right hand on a Saturday AM, Ha HA. With rebate at Sears like a Hun a pop, Cheers Warm

Jabberwock

I think most brands of modern tires are all built pretty well these days. They do feel different and its a risk to switch between brands and away from something you are used to but its way less risk than years ago. Given the 30 day guarantee its fairly risk free.

froboy272

where do you see a $400 price difference?

warminwisc

Sears Comfortred Tour v rated 440 Primacy V rated 780 both with rebates at the time tax inc. no mount

I was more comparing to the Yota dealer quote of 900 bucks plus a 50 dollar gas card for the Primacy V
Drove it again to the game tonight looking to not like it em and they seem OK. Ya feel bad for em to see grown seniors cry when they loose the last football game to set em up for the playoffs but alas if only I was young again!!

Better question where did ya find the Tornado Ti's for 370 bucks?

Lust4Lexus

Stick with the primacies. They probably saved my life today.....

warminwisc

Lust, I agree...Side by side same cost I would probably buy the Primacy unless they have changed as a poster alluded to and are noisier, they are like the S8 design now with 8 rows of tread blocks. My LS came with the Assurance Comfortred before the recently improved Touring model and it drove fine for 25k before I got the Primacies.
The V rated Touring now corners at higher speeds as good or better than my H rated primacies I had. It still has the nose lean around corners at slower speeds. It is quiet and absorbs bumps and cracks smoothly. The old Assuranace are rated 6th behind the Harmony and Hydroedge(I love the hydro on my van) and has like 18 million miles reported on them on TR

The newer Assurance Touring, of course the GY rep said they where vastly improved,, have like 1 million plus miles reported on them compared to 12 million or so on the primacies on Tirerack and are rated neck and neck and just maybe Goodyear has something here.

As Jabberwock said the top tire in many brands can be a solid performer and the Touring will have the family sale 10% off and the 160 dollar rebate again on November 2nd at Sears and may be worth giving it a 30 day trial. I plan on getting some P3's for the wifes Cam BriD at that time. Cheers Warm

warminwisc

FYI, 500 miles I just forget they are on,

Very good tires, better handling and steering than my Primacy H's it is a V rated tire. Bumps are a little more noticeable on short choppy concrete stretches but quiet steady, smooth, stable otherwise and I can see why they are rated#1 neck and neck on TR with the Primacy though V or H rated is not mentioned in the comparisons.
A little less nose dive and I feel when cornering big sweeping turns when I push em my whole body does not feel like it wants to roll out of the seat maybe just a little bit of my shoulders. Happy as hell to save ca$h. Coming home in the subdivision I hear the tread blocks squeek(good beefy tread for all season capability)with the new tires but I am taking turns faster than before pushin em.

Still a big fat luxobox but I would like to have these tires or the Primacy V's on the Sport Suspension model with 18's versus my 17's. THX Warm