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Old 08-06-15, 07:49 AM
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Default Need help-93' ls poor idle, no acceleration and running rich

Hey I'm new to the club Lexus forums, my names Mitch. I recently purchased a mint 93' ls400 down here in London Ontario, Canada and having some troubles with it. I've done a ton of research on my problem and have come up with a wide array of problems it could be. I'm not made of money I believe in a proper diagnosis rather then just dumping money into something that has a simple fix. I'll try my best to name the symptoms. Prior to this, I have installed new plugs, caps and rotors to get rid of a misfire which I thought was my problem. Car ran AMAZING after I look a 5 min drive, when I got back it died on me.

Symptoms:
-running very rich, black smoke coming from the tail pipes.
-idles around 200rpms when I can get it to idle on its own, then it usually dies out shortly after
-has no acceleration, 0-60 in 10 seconds or so (much faster after I did the plugs etc.)
-won't rev over 2000rpms in drive, or 4000 in park

I work at a shop and I've had a few mechanics took at it, it's obvious it's a metering issue with the air/fuel ratio because it's running so rich it seems to be choking itself out because it doesn't have enough air. I have a couple friends with sc's and they all seem to think it might be the IACV, seems to be a common problem. I'd appreciate any advice you may have, I am new to the 1UZ so I am learning as I go. Thanks in advance.
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Welcome to Club Lexus.

Several possibilities and further discussion about these are in the 2-LS FAQ (They overlap with the 1-LS so the discussions are listed there):

ECU : https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...capacitor.html
ECT:https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...read-this.html
Can be an IACV so worthwhile to go through because these are not uncommon maintenance areas.
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Thanks RA40. I will take a look at the links you posted. I really hope it's not the ECU but it has a lot of similar symptoms unfortunately.
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Could be's........

1 Cold start valve leaking.
2 Engine temp sensor
3 O2 sensors
4 ECU
5 Leaking injector
6 IAC

Also check fuel pressure
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Originally Posted by YotaMitch
-won't rev over 2000rpms in drive,
It simply means that your car is in the limp home mode. The main processor part is not working right and the sub-processor is working but it limits the rpm up to 2000rpm.

I'd quickly check the ECU measuring the ripple or simply replace QAS capacitors.
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Originally Posted by dicer
Could be's........

1 Cold start valve leaking.
2 Engine temp sensor
3 O2 sensors
4 ECU
5 Leaking injector
6 IAC

Also check fuel pressure
What is the start valve? As well my tach and speedo do not work regularly, just intermittent. Is there a way I can test my ecu? I am not able to connect with a scanner to either obd port, just comes up saying it has a communication error. Do you think this would be a good sign my ecu needs capacitors?

A couple of guys at work suggested checking the fuel pressure, which I will do in the next couple days after I put the IACV back on (just took apart and cleaned w/ carb cleaner). I really appreciate your advice, it helps out huge.
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Originally Posted by Yamae
It simply means that your car is in the limp home mode. The main processor part is not working right and the sub-processor is working but it limits the rpm up to 2000rpm.

I'd quickly check the ECU measuring the ripple or simply replace QAS capacitors.
How would I go about measuring the ripple? I am thinking a lot of my problem has to do with the ECU but I don't want to rule out the same simple stuff as well. Limp mode makes sense, it is very sluggish.
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Here is one write up for it. I think its for gen 2, its a bit more difficult for some gen 1's.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-by-yamae.html
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Originally Posted by dicer
Here is one write up for it. I think its for gen 2, its a bit more difficult for some gen 1's.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-by-yamae.html
Thanks dicer I'll check it out!
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Cold start valve is the 9th fuel injector. It injects extra fuel for cold start ups.
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Originally Posted by dicer
Cold start valve is the 9th fuel injector. It injects extra fuel for cold start ups.
Thank you!
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