The future of our cars. The Ls400 in 2020
12-05-15, 03:30 PM
#76
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12-05-15, 11:55 PM
#77
It's really cool that you get to drive your LS around at work, among all of the new Lexus cars that your co-workers own! It reminds me of when I worked for MBUSA. One of my co-workers would drive a Mercedes-Benz W123, among many other new MB cars in the lot, and I always heard similar conversations going around. It was really nice to see it was being properly cared for.
Going back to your point, though; I am really disappointed to be a part of the generation that's abusing nice examples of these cars... I've had friends who have tried to convince me to "slam" my car, change out the rims, push it to redline, and make the car go sideways, but it just doesn't feel right
They fail to understand the incredible care and attention to detail that Toyota put in, when developing the LS400. It is for this reason that I would like to leave the car as "untouched" as possible, and enjoy it for what it was engineered to do: Provide a comforting and well-balanced driving experience.
However, I would like to note that this does not mean I don't appreciate custom builds by other LS owners. I applaud builds that are well thought out and executed. What I don't like are builds that involve tearing the car to shreds, and leaving it that way.
Going back to your point, though; I am really disappointed to be a part of the generation that's abusing nice examples of these cars... I've had friends who have tried to convince me to "slam" my car, change out the rims, push it to redline, and make the car go sideways, but it just doesn't feel right
They fail to understand the incredible care and attention to detail that Toyota put in, when developing the LS400. It is for this reason that I would like to leave the car as "untouched" as possible, and enjoy it for what it was engineered to do: Provide a comforting and well-balanced driving experience.
However, I would like to note that this does not mean I don't appreciate custom builds by other LS owners. I applaud builds that are well thought out and executed. What I don't like are builds that involve tearing the car to shreds, and leaving it that way.
12-06-15, 05:08 AM
#78
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They fail to understand the incredible care and attention to detail that Toyota put in, when developing the LS400. It is for this reason that I would like to leave the car as "untouched" as possible, and enjoy it for what it was engineered to do: Provide a comforting and well-balanced driving experience.
However, I would like to note that this does not mean I don't appreciate custom builds by other LS owners. I applaud builds that are well thought out and executed..[/QUOTE]
These are my thoughts also, plus I never play a radio, I don't like noise just quiet. I think the lowered cars look good around the wheels, but not "road huggers", just not my thing... some of the lights are an improvement on looks but I just don't spend my money that way. (I'm weird) I like traveling.. been to all but 3 states, England, France(Normandy), Switzerland (homeland) & Italy..
well now you know me... once again, here is my Chariot..
They fail to understand the incredible care and attention to detail that Toyota put in, when developing the LS400. It is for this reason that I would like to leave the car as "untouched" as possible, and enjoy it for what it was engineered to do: Provide a comforting and well-balanced driving experience.
However, I would like to note that this does not mean I don't appreciate custom builds by other LS owners. I applaud builds that are well thought out and executed..[/QUOTE]
These are my thoughts also, plus I never play a radio, I don't like noise just quiet. I think the lowered cars look good around the wheels, but not "road huggers", just not my thing... some of the lights are an improvement on looks but I just don't spend my money that way. (I'm weird) I like traveling.. been to all but 3 states, England, France(Normandy), Switzerland (homeland) & Italy..
well now you know me... once again, here is my Chariot..
12-06-15, 10:01 AM
#79
These are my thoughts also, plus I never play a radio, I don't like noise just quiet. I think the lowered cars look good around the wheels, but not "road huggers", just not my thing... some of the lights are an improvement on looks but I just don't spend my money that way. (I'm weird) I like traveling.. been to all but 3 states, England, France(Normandy), Switzerland (homeland) & Italy..
well now you know me... once again, here is my Chariot..
well now you know me... once again, here is my Chariot..
I couldn't agree more with your thoughts. Beautiful looking car!
12-06-15, 01:51 PM
#80
And the sad thing is anyone wanting to modify won't buy one that's had it done already they want to trash one that hasn't been. It is just weirdness, because in the end it ends up on craigslist for 500 bucks as a parts car, after they have spent the original purchase price plus all the time and money for the parts. Lowering any car just trashes the underside.
12-06-15, 02:42 PM
#81
And the sad thing is anyone wanting to modify won't buy one that's had it done already they want to trash one that hasn't been. It is just weirdness, because in the end it ends up on craigslist for 500 bucks as a parts car, after they have spent the original purchase price plus all the time and money for the parts. Lowering any car just trashes the underside.
Some also are totaled or end up crushed. Shame..
There will always be good examples somewhere, though.
12-07-15, 08:44 AM
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I have 93 LS400 274k passed down from the dad original owner still has original paint in great condition garage kept its entire life. Plan on keeping it as a spare car. Don't see too many clean 1st generation LS anymore most are ran down but still running.I also own a 07 LS460 another great car.
12-07-15, 08:08 PM
#83
I have 93 LS400 274k passed down from the dad original owner still has original paint in great condition garage kept its entire life. Plan on keeping it as a spare car. Don't see too many clean 1st generation LS anymore most are ran down but still running.I also own a 07 LS460 another great car.
Even the best of cars grow problems from sitting too long.
12-09-15, 06:36 AM
#84
Lexus Test Driver
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indeed. one thing about these old LSes is that you gotta keep them driving and on the road. seems like the only way that you CAN kill them is not driving them. over the years in self service yards id say 85% of the LS400s ive seen junked have very low miles. its the ones with 250k+ on them are the ones you mostly still see on the roads.
12-09-15, 06:43 AM
#85
Lexus Test Driver
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It's really cool that you get to drive your LS around at work, among all of the new Lexus cars that your co-workers own! It reminds me of when I worked for MBUSA. One of my co-workers would drive a Mercedes-Benz W123, among many other new MB cars in the lot, and I always heard similar conversations going around. It was really nice to see it was being properly cared for.
Going back to your point, though; I am really disappointed to be a part of the generation that's abusing nice examples of these cars... I've had friends who have tried to convince me to "slam" my car, change out the rims, push it to redline, and make the car go sideways, but it just doesn't feel right
They fail to understand the incredible care and attention to detail that Toyota put in, when developing the LS400. It is for this reason that I would like to leave the car as "untouched" as possible, and enjoy it for what it was engineered to do: Provide a comforting and well-balanced driving experience.
However, I would like to note that this does not mean I don't appreciate custom builds by other LS owners. I applaud builds that are well thought out and executed. What I don't like are builds that involve tearing the car to shreds, and leaving it that way.
Going back to your point, though; I am really disappointed to be a part of the generation that's abusing nice examples of these cars... I've had friends who have tried to convince me to "slam" my car, change out the rims, push it to redline, and make the car go sideways, but it just doesn't feel right
They fail to understand the incredible care and attention to detail that Toyota put in, when developing the LS400. It is for this reason that I would like to leave the car as "untouched" as possible, and enjoy it for what it was engineered to do: Provide a comforting and well-balanced driving experience.
However, I would like to note that this does not mean I don't appreciate custom builds by other LS owners. I applaud builds that are well thought out and executed. What I don't like are builds that involve tearing the car to shreds, and leaving it that way.
yep gotta say im proud to have the oldest car in the parking lot here at the dealership. get comments constantly about how clean it still is, everyone from sales, to service, to the wash bay notices it and comments here and there about it.
however, in modern 2015 traffic it still looks normal, but at the dealership parked between a 2016 RX350 and a 2015 RC350 F-sport, it looks really really dated. its the older, wiser car. as time goes on im hearing more words like "classic" "old school" and even "vintage" lexus. its a trip.
mine is totally untouched. original everything and I don't plan on slamming, drifting, or hacking it up. ive got a $400 94 ucf10 that's beat to death already and a total mess, that im going to slam and drift. its got 468,500 miles on it and the previous owner abused it so its pretty tired and wore out.
12-09-15, 01:55 PM
#86
yep gotta say im proud to have the oldest car in the parking lot here at the dealership. get comments constantly about how clean it still is, everyone from sales, to service, to the wash bay notices it and comments here and there about it.
however, in modern 2015 traffic it still looks normal, but at the dealership parked between a 2016 RX350 and a 2015 RC350 F-sport, it looks really really dated. its the older, wiser car. as time goes on im hearing more words like "classic" "old school" and even "vintage" lexus. its a trip.
mine is totally untouched. original everything and I don't plan on slamming, drifting, or hacking it up. ive got a $400 94 ucf10 that's beat to death already and a total mess, that im going to slam and drift. its got 468,500 miles on it and the previous owner abused it so its pretty tired and wore out.
however, in modern 2015 traffic it still looks normal, but at the dealership parked between a 2016 RX350 and a 2015 RC350 F-sport, it looks really really dated. its the older, wiser car. as time goes on im hearing more words like "classic" "old school" and even "vintage" lexus. its a trip.
mine is totally untouched. original everything and I don't plan on slamming, drifting, or hacking it up. ive got a $400 94 ucf10 that's beat to death already and a total mess, that im going to slam and drift. its got 468,500 miles on it and the previous owner abused it so its pretty tired and wore out.
... But that's off-topic.Happy to hear you're going to enjoy your 94'. That's the only type of state an LS400 could be in, where I would consider doing something to it. Although, even then I probably wouldn't touch it.
Last edited by CELSI0R; 12-09-15 at 01:56 PM. Reason: Grammar
01-04-16, 05:40 AM
#87
Lexus Test Driver
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damn. our cars just got another year older. this year, the first Ls400s will have rolled off the assembly line 27 years ago! the last ones rolled off the line 16 years ago! these cars are going from old to really old. one year closer to antique tags!
there is one thing however.. are the early ones finally starting to really **** the bed? ive seen whispers about the reliability of the ucf10 and for people saying stay away simply due to age. I say its BS but is there truth to this?
thoughts?
there is one thing however.. are the early ones finally starting to really **** the bed? ive seen whispers about the reliability of the ucf10 and for people saying stay away simply due to age. I say its BS but is there truth to this?
thoughts?
01-04-16, 07:33 AM
#88
damn. our cars just got another year older. this year, the first Ls400s will have rolled off the assembly line 27 years ago! the last ones rolled off the line 16 years ago! these cars are going from old to really old. one year closer to antique tags!
there is one thing however.. are the early ones finally starting to really **** the bed? ive seen whispers about the reliability of the ucf10 and for people saying stay away simply due to age. I say its BS but is there truth to this?
thoughts?
there is one thing however.. are the early ones finally starting to really **** the bed? ive seen whispers about the reliability of the ucf10 and for people saying stay away simply due to age. I say its BS but is there truth to this?
thoughts?
What I'm sure of is I can now get vintage plates where I live.. I don't think I'll do it just yet, though!
01-04-16, 10:10 AM
#89
damn. our cars just got another year older. this year, the first Ls400s will have rolled off the assembly line 27 years ago! the last ones rolled off the line 16 years ago! these cars are going from old to really old. one year closer to antique tags!
there is one thing however.. are the early ones finally starting to really **** the bed? ive seen whispers about the reliability of the ucf10 and for people saying stay away simply due to age. I say its BS but is there truth to this?
thoughts?
there is one thing however.. are the early ones finally starting to really **** the bed? ive seen whispers about the reliability of the ucf10 and for people saying stay away simply due to age. I say its BS but is there truth to this?
thoughts?
These cars are well known for being able to get to 250K miles without much of an issue, but it seems lots of folks have bought these and just driven them without any consideration for required maintenance or care.
Cars.com has 149 for sale, but there aren't that many with less than 100K miles and I would stay away from about 15% of the cars listed due to miles or condition. Most of the nicer cars are the 98-00's so there may be some truth to staying away from the older cars.
01-06-16, 06:26 AM
#90
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
yep. people buy them for $1500, drive them into the ground and throw them away at this point. im seeing more and more of them like that at this point. when these cars have things like the starter go, they end up junking them instead of fixing.