LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000) Discussion topics related to the 1990 - 2000 Lexus LS400

Timing belt change, cracked camshaft-sensor.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-10-13, 12:56 AM
  #1  
Dutchy
Driver
Thread Starter
 
Dutchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Timing belt change, cracked camshaft-sensor.

Hi everybody,

Yesterday i did the timing belt and waterpump change. Pretty nice job to do, but takes some time.

I only cracked the sensor of the right camshaft position-sensor. Forgot to write down the part number on it, or make a pic of it in the hurry.

Does anybody know where i could get the right one? Are all the camshaft position-sensors the same for the 1995 - 1997 LS 400?

I also noticed that the bearings from the idler and tensioner pully's are worn, so also need to order them soon. Where can i get them best? Rockauto?

Hopefully somebody can help me out as soon as possible !

Is it bad driving the car now? the check engine light came on, together with the flashing tracs light. i need the car for driving to my work. The engine seems to run fine !










Thanks in advance.
Poika.
Old 03-10-13, 01:24 AM
  #2  
LScowboyLS
Lexus Champion
 
LScowboyLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 4,078
Likes: 0
Received 81 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

all camshaft sensors are the same from 1990-1997 on LS400, however left bank and right bank are two different part numbers and NOT interchangeable between sides, Toyota called these #1 and #2 rather than LH and RH, respectively.

the Toyota part numbers are 90919-05003 (#1 - LH i.e. driver's side) and 90919-05004 (#2 RH)


I also noticed that the bearings from the idler and tensioner pully's are worn, so also need to order them soon. Where can i get them best? Rockauto?
no on rockauto, you want the real OEM bearings ie. Koyo, NSK, NTN. - best price is probably ebay


Is it bad driving the car now? the check engine light came on, together with the flashing tracs light. i need the car for driving to my work. The engine seems to run fine
I would want to know what those OBD-II codes are that are causing the engine and trac lights to be lit, before I would give the OK to drive the car to work

Last edited by LScowboyLS; 03-10-13 at 01:54 AM.
Old 03-10-13, 01:39 AM
  #3  
Dutchy
Driver
Thread Starter
 
Dutchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Cowboy ! Thanks for the quick reply.

Where did you order the sensors? I'll try to order here at the lexus dealer tomorrow with your part-number, but probaly they won't find it (europe)

I checked ebay just now. they dont sell any OEM bearing for the belt. Where did you order them?

I really like my car, but when something is broken, it takes ages to order something and the prices over here are overdone compared to de US

And can i drive the car like this for a few weeks? The ECU is in a safe mode now i guess?

thanks!
Old 03-10-13, 01:53 AM
  #4  
LScowboyLS
Lexus Champion
 
LScowboyLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 4,078
Likes: 0
Received 81 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

the OEM bearing manufactures were Koyo, NSK & NTN

make sure the tensioner and idler bearings are made by one of those three!
Old 03-10-13, 03:03 AM
  #5  
LScowboyLS
Lexus Champion
 
LScowboyLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 4,078
Likes: 0
Received 81 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

this place has your bearings at reasonable price

another source for idler

any Lexus dealership in America will have the cam sensors - I am not an expert on Celsior, so if your car is JDM type, you will need to double check that part number is the same, yamae would know.

Sewell Lexus and Carson in California are known to have good online discounts of 25-30% off

Last edited by LScowboyLS; 03-10-13 at 03:11 AM.
Old 03-10-13, 03:19 AM
  #6  
LScowboyLS
Lexus Champion
 
LScowboyLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 4,078
Likes: 0
Received 81 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

the cheap way to have done this job would have been to order all of the OEM parts together at once in the Aisin TKT-030 kit

then you get AISIN Water Pump, KOYO Idler Bearing, NSK Tensioner Bearing, NTN Hydraulic Tensioner, Mitsuboshi Timing Belt all for $242 + shipping from repuable 100% feedback ebay seller

even cheaper here - $206
Old 03-10-13, 05:18 AM
  #7  
Dutchy
Driver
Thread Starter
 
Dutchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I did,

I have this kit:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEXUS-LS400-...d3588c&vxp=mtr
Old 03-10-13, 06:57 AM
  #8  
LScowboyLS
Lexus Champion
 
LScowboyLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 4,078
Likes: 0
Received 81 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

then I am confused, why aren't the bearings in your kit like it says they are?
Old 03-10-13, 09:29 AM
  #9  
Dutchy
Driver
Thread Starter
 
Dutchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I mean de idler and tensioner from the drive belt. The belt for the powersteering, AC, alternator...

Those dont come in the kit.

Can i order those from rockauto? (Not OEM)
Old 03-10-13, 10:38 AM
  #10  
Lexinky
Rookie
 
Lexinky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Maybe this will help

This is what I did

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls4...aved-some.html
Old 03-10-13, 03:08 PM
  #11  
Dutchy
Driver
Thread Starter
 
Dutchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by LScowboyLS
I would want to know what those OBD-II codes are that are causing the engine and trac lights to be lit, before I would give the OK to drive the car to work
Pff, i checked how i could check my codes, But i dont have OBD2. Its something from toyota itself.

I checked this howto also: http://www.lexls.com/tutorials/intro/codereading.html

Mine looks like this..

Old 03-10-13, 03:57 PM
  #12  
LScowboyLS
Lexus Champion
 
LScowboyLS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Birmingham, AL
Posts: 4,078
Likes: 0
Received 81 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Dutchy
I mean de idler and tensioner from the drive belt. The belt for the powersteering, AC, alternator...

Those dont come in the kit.

Can i order those from rockauto? (Not OEM)
yes, you can nearly always order aftermarket idler pulleys, and sometimes tensioners as well, but with your car being a Celsior, it can sometimes mess up the year to order for, for example, a 95 Celsior ECU is really more like a 94 LS400 ECU than a 95

I like to identify the exact bearing and try and get it straight from the bearing distributors, but that is just me
Old 03-11-13, 07:43 AM
  #13  
Dutchy
Driver
Thread Starter
 
Dutchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

OK, The part number for the sensor is the same as you said Cowboy. Price here at Lexus Amsterdam: 170€ = 220$

Idler pulley: 85€ = 110$

Tensioner with pulley: 146€ = 190$

All prices without 21% tax. But original from Lexus.

Ridiculous if you ask me, compared to the US.

I think i will go for these products.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...544&cc=1187502

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...436&cc=1187502

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...452&cc=1187502

I read the codes on socket e1 - te1: 13 and 21

13 = RPM signal no. 2 (Is this the camshaft sensor?)
21 = Main oxygen sensor signal.

Last edited by Dutchy; 03-11-13 at 09:29 AM.
Old 03-11-13, 07:07 PM
  #14  
Yamae
Moderator
 
Yamae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,737
Received 850 Likes on 643 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Dutchy
I read the codes on socket e1 - te1: 13 and 21
Wasn't the the timing belt shifted some when the tensioner was applied?
It was a different car but I had the problem before.
Old 03-12-13, 01:48 AM
  #15  
Dutchy
Driver
Thread Starter
 
Dutchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 138
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I dont believe that, Yamae. The engine runs ok. No lack of power, starts good.

Can i measure the camshaft sensor to be sure it's broken and it gives the engine code 13?

Thanks in advance.


Quick Reply: Timing belt change, cracked camshaft-sensor.



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:18 PM.