All my crazy Lexus issues SOLVED!! (ECU-leaking capacitor)
#61
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
you don't need bags of them, just those brands listed above and make sure they are the low ESR type that yamae specified in post #8 of this thread and that they are 105C temp rated, and at least as high of a voltage as the originals.
examples:
Rubycon type ZLH
Nippon Chemi-con type KZE
Panasonic type FR
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examples:
Rubycon type ZLH
Nippon Chemi-con type KZE
Panasonic type FR
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Last edited by LScowboyLS; 07-20-13 at 02:42 AM.
#63
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I'm thinking solid state capacitors this way no liquid to leak. Also higher temp rating
http://www.avx.com/docs/Catalogs/tap.pdf
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll
They cost a lot more which is why manufactures do not use them
http://www.avx.com/docs/Catalogs/tap.pdf
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll
They cost a lot more which is why manufactures do not use them
Last edited by sam12345; 10-14-12 at 07:43 AM.
#64
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I'm thinking solid state capacitors this way no liquid to leak. Also higher temp rating
http://www.avx.com/docs/Catalogs/tap.pdf
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll
They cost a lot more which is why manufactures do not use them
http://www.avx.com/docs/Catalogs/tap.pdf
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll
They cost a lot more which is why manufactures do not use them
1, Much expensive compared with electrolytic capacitors.
2, Bigger risks of fire hazard as is explained below.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/10...gers-tantalum/
I had big problems introducing tantalum capacitors for the power circuits. We were manufacturing RF equipments a lot and we often had smoke/burning problems at the market as well as at the manufacturing lines. We finally started to use an aging machine to age those tantalum capacitors to eliminate risky ones. The defect ratio has dropped but we still we had market failures time to time. We ended up not to use them anymore.
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#65
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
I like to save up tantalum capacitors & lithium batteries for New's Years celebrations, cheaper than conventional fireworks - very good BANG! - lol
#67
Lexus Champion
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I found that due to it being a multi-layer board, I had to solder the caps on both sides of the board, just "get in and get out" on the soldering, these caps do not like high heat from the soldering iron for an extended time period, and keep the leads long for the same reason (maximize lead length from board to cap) - you can always fold the cap down when you are done to make it fit back inside ECU case.
I also gave the board and ECU casing a blow of gentle compressed air when I was done to ensure no clipped leads or stray solder remained, but be gentle!
#68
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I'm not buying the exploding capacitors since those types are used all over inside cell phones. Unless they are not used on the power circuits.
I looked it up and I guess you are correct if incorrectly applied. From wikipidea
The low leakage and high capacity of tantalum capacitors favor their use in sample and hold circuits to achieve long hold duration, and some long duration timing circuits where precise timing is not critical. They are also often used for power supply rail decoupling in parallel with film or ceramic capacitors which provide low ESR and low reactance at high frequency. Tantalum capacitors can replace aluminum electrolytic capacitors in situations where the external environment or dense component packing results in a sustained hot internal environment and where high reliability is important. Equipment such as medical electronics and space equipment that require high quality and reliability makes use of tantalum capacitors.
An especially common application for low-voltage tantalum capacitors is power supply filtering on computer motherboards and in peripherals, due to their small size and long-term reliability.[2][3]
When applying tantalum capacitors, the possibility of thermal runaway (see above) or spontaneous short-circuiting must be considered. In many cases, a failed capacitor will only make the circuit stop functioning normally. However, if sufficient power is available, catastrophic thermal runaway may cause a fire or small explosion. A design can prevent this by using external current limiting (e.g. thermal fuse, circuit breaker).
I looked it up and I guess you are correct if incorrectly applied. From wikipidea
The low leakage and high capacity of tantalum capacitors favor their use in sample and hold circuits to achieve long hold duration, and some long duration timing circuits where precise timing is not critical. They are also often used for power supply rail decoupling in parallel with film or ceramic capacitors which provide low ESR and low reactance at high frequency. Tantalum capacitors can replace aluminum electrolytic capacitors in situations where the external environment or dense component packing results in a sustained hot internal environment and where high reliability is important. Equipment such as medical electronics and space equipment that require high quality and reliability makes use of tantalum capacitors.
An especially common application for low-voltage tantalum capacitors is power supply filtering on computer motherboards and in peripherals, due to their small size and long-term reliability.[2][3]
When applying tantalum capacitors, the possibility of thermal runaway (see above) or spontaneous short-circuiting must be considered. In many cases, a failed capacitor will only make the circuit stop functioning normally. However, if sufficient power is available, catastrophic thermal runaway may cause a fire or small explosion. A design can prevent this by using external current limiting (e.g. thermal fuse, circuit breaker).
#69
Ok there were some questions for me...
I am sorry to resopnd so late:
The ECU is from my LS400 build 1991 ufc10
The thing laying on the circuitboard is problably a hair from the white dog i have.
I really do not know anything about values or transistors on my ECU.
These pictrues were taken to show to the experts to see if i have ECU issues.
Do i have ECU issues ?
Greetings from the Dam
I am sorry to resopnd so late:
The ECU is from my LS400 build 1991 ufc10
The thing laying on the circuitboard is problably a hair from the white dog i have.
I really do not know anything about values or transistors on my ECU.
These pictrues were taken to show to the experts to see if i have ECU issues.
Do i have ECU issues ?
Greetings from the Dam
#71
Ok there were some questions for me...
I am sorry to resopnd so late:
The ECU is from my LS400 build 1991 ufc10
The thing laying on the circuitboard is problably a hair from the white dog i have.
I really do not know anything about values or transistors on my ECU.
These pictrues were taken to show to the experts to see if i have ECU issues.
Do i have ECU issues ?
Greetings from the Dam
I am sorry to resopnd so late:
The ECU is from my LS400 build 1991 ufc10
The thing laying on the circuitboard is problably a hair from the white dog i have.
I really do not know anything about values or transistors on my ECU.
These pictrues were taken to show to the experts to see if i have ECU issues.
Do i have ECU issues ?
Greetings from the Dam
if you have it open or what not can you get a better look or pic under/around C715 and the one next to it and like every one else says if you dont now you, you will later so might as well fix em. Oh what are your symptoms that you are having?
#72
Moderator
I have seen capacitors look OK at a glance. But the ESR shows too big and the capacitance too low. It would be better for old LS400/Celcior owners to replace those capacitors as a preventive maintenance. They only cost 10 dollars+ or so.
#73
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
Manufacturer authorized USA online Internet sources for various recommended capacitors: (so you can avoid getting fake counterfeit capacitors)
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www.digikey.com
www.newark.com
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www.digikey.com
www.newark.com
www.mouser.com
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www.digikey.com
www.mouser.com
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www.digikey.com
www.newark.com
www.mouser.com
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www.digikey.com
www.newark.com
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www.digikey.com
www.newark.com
www.mouser.com
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www.digikey.com
www.mouser.com
Attachment 501429
www.digikey.com
www.newark.com
www.mouser.com
Last edited by LScowboyLS; 10-21-12 at 11:07 AM.
#75
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
Nichicon, Nippon and Rubycon are on amazon very easy for 1 payment and it was cheaper to get more in a bag for the shipping plus i got more to play with now