Originally Posted by Contender

And the handling, fit and finish - all exemplary. I shall post pics one day of the entire, sealed bottom of the car (after the next oil change, I promise) which is make just about entirely of carbon fiber. I have never seen a car underside with the attention to fit and finish of the LFA. Of course hardly anyone ever sees the underside of the car - but it gives you some idea what the rest of the car is like. The cockpit for example - is perfect.

Originally Posted by UDel

I know you love this car and are the one who posts overwhelmingly in this forum and keeps the forum from being basically dead but people are going to have different opinions on the LFA.

It does not matter other less expensive cars are quicker then more expensive cars, the LFA still has some rather unimpressive performance specs considering the price and how new it was which did not help in its perception. 918 has done 0-60 in a Veyron equivalent 2.5 seconds, have not seen a 911 Turbo S beat that(came very close) and a 918 will be even more impressive at higher speeds then a 911 Turbo. You could say every high powered car is traction limited to 0-60 as an excuse for the LFA, the LFA is not even some torque monster like other high powered cars. 0-60 is not everything and I don't want it to seem like I am putting down the LFA, because I still think it is a good car and I am happy they at least built it, my issue with it had more to do with its price for its performance and such small numbers produced that it is unlikely to ever be seen on the road by 99% of people and won't do much for the brand. It does not make much sense for a common large scale automaker to make a car so expensive and in so little numbers. I makes sense for Bugatti or Lamborghini doing it but not Toyota/Lexus.

Nurburgring lap times have as much to do with drivers/tires/tuning as they do cars and it is a place 99.9% of sports car owners will never take their car to, other performance variables are achievable by 99% of drivers.

Before the LFA was released many even on here were speculating it would weigh well under 3000lbs due to the switch to carbon fiber, outperform a McLaren F1/Veyron, have over 600hp, and cost 160K to 180K, and look more like the concepts, none of which happened, the final product did not exactly meet most expectations and the price was shocking. The LFA did not shock the world, change the way sports cars are made, or put other makers on notice, it more or less came and went without many even noticing it.

The fact is any car company could make a monster supercar priced at 375K.

For a huge brand like Toyota/Lexus they don't have to price a low volume high end sports car to make a profit like Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc they have the money and cushioning from other sales to take a loss on the car. In my opinion I think the purpose of the LFA should have been or was to show the public Lexus can and will be building more driver focused cars and to give attention to the F performance cars, pricing it lower, building more, and having the car visible and seen by more of the public and having one at most dealerships would accomplish this even if it meant selling it at a big loss. Instead they just built 500 at a really high price ensuring 99% of the public will never even see one or know anything about it, many LFA's are/have already been on ebay, others have not even been sold to customers, they were bought by dealerships and just sitting around often hidden from the public.

That being said I don't agree with Jalapnik in that the LFA is the worst Halo Car of all time or their childish opinions on Lexus/Lexus drivers but there are some points in that article and what other posters have said that are true and I agree with, they are not the only ones to be critical of the LFA or its role either.

Originally Posted by rominl

fwiw i never expect to see lfa often at all given only 178 in the US. and truth is, outside of corporate cars? i have yet to see one running on the road and i am in socal where you literally see pretty much every single damn exotic

Originally Posted by Gojirra99

I think those are HRE wheels , and the car was bought by Superstition Springs Lexus in Arizona, they put those wheels on the car and had hold on to it for quite a while. It's supposedly the only Black Amethyst LFA in N. America, if not the world I think ......

They still have it with Christmas decorations on in their showroom a year ago , I have seen pictures of it with those wheels in their facebook page. I think they have removed some of those pictures since ...

Whether they have since sold the car with those wheels, I don't know ......

Originally Posted by Gojirra99

I think this is the same car :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQNrLMP1FaQ


Pics :

https://www.facebook.com/SSLexus/pho...type=3&theater


More pics :

Originally Posted by Gojirra99

I think those are HRE wheels , and the car was bought by Superstition Springs Lexus in Arizona, they put those wheels on the car and had hold on to it for quite a while. It's supposedly the only Black Amethyst LFA in N. America, if not the world I think ......

They still have it with Christmas decorations on in their showroom a year ago , I have seen pictures of it with those wheels in their facebook page. I think they have removed some of those pictures since ......

Whether they have since sold the car with those wheels, I don't know ......