Lexus LFA Nürburgring Package to Debut at Geneva Auto Show (March 3rd, 2011)
02-23-11, 10:57 AM
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If the car is all about handling, Lexus, stop telling us those boring straightline numbers and give us the stats that really matter!! It's not like you don't have them!
It's sad to see that with all the handling and weight saving upgrades the Nurburgring Edition receives the only performance stat that Lexus can show to the world is that it can still accelerate from 0 to 60 in 3.7 secs... as fast as the regular LFA!! Woo hoo!!
If the car is all about handling, Lexus, stop telling us those boring straightline numbers and give us the stats that really matter!! It's not like you don't have them!
It's sad to see that with all the handling and weight saving upgrades the Nurburgring Edition receives the only performance stat that Lexus can show to the world is that it can still accelerate from 0 to 60 in 3.7 secs... as fast as the regular LFA!! Woo hoo!!
02-23-11, 11:21 AM
#47
Lexus Test Driver
True. However, straight line acceleration is still a part of the equation for a proper well rounded sports car. Otherwise, cars like RX8 with great chassis, suspension, balance and feedback, but poor acceleration would be considered better than cars like 370Z, 135i etc. that have a lot more straight line acceleration alongside the handling stuff.
Though, Lexus LFA does not need to be a Bugatti in a straight line, the owners should really know how quick it is in a straight line.
I would say, if it goes 0-60 mph in 3.2 - 3.3 secs and 1/4 mile in 11.1 - 11.3 seconds with launch control in the dry, though it is not earth shattering, it atleast proves it has all the straight line prowess necessary for track hotlaps.
Though, Lexus LFA does not need to be a Bugatti in a straight line, the owners should really know how quick it is in a straight line.
I would say, if it goes 0-60 mph in 3.2 - 3.3 secs and 1/4 mile in 11.1 - 11.3 seconds with launch control in the dry, though it is not earth shattering, it atleast proves it has all the straight line prowess necessary for track hotlaps.
Last edited by 05RollaXRS; 02-23-11 at 11:29 AM.
02-23-11, 11:32 AM
#48
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Even in the brochure it was mentioned as a means of driver acclimation to the car. I mean, I don't consider the IS F a drag race oriented vehicle either, but I've done plenty of straight line runs with heavy braking just to figure out characteristics like weight balance changes.
Last edited by gengar; 02-23-11 at 12:30 PM.
02-23-11, 12:21 PM
#49
Lexus Champion
I'm wondering if I can post these extra large images here? I think I will wait for permission, or maybe make a new thread with extra large images of the LFA. That'd be a better option.
02-23-11, 02:03 PM
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True. However, straight line acceleration is still a part of the equation for a proper well rounded sports car. Otherwise, cars like RX8 with great chassis, suspension, balance and feedback, but poor acceleration would be considered better than cars like 370Z, 135i etc. that have a lot more straight line acceleration alongside the handling stuff.
Though, Lexus LFA does not need to be a Bugatti in a straight line, the owners should really know how quick it is in a straight line.
I would say, if it goes 0-60 mph in 3.2 - 3.3 secs and 1/4 mile in 11.1 - 11.3 seconds with launch control in the dry, though it is not earth shattering, it atleast proves it has all the straight line prowess necessary for track hotlaps.
Though, Lexus LFA does not need to be a Bugatti in a straight line, the owners should really know how quick it is in a straight line.
I would say, if it goes 0-60 mph in 3.2 - 3.3 secs and 1/4 mile in 11.1 - 11.3 seconds with launch control in the dry, though it is not earth shattering, it atleast proves it has all the straight line prowess necessary for track hotlaps.
The reason stated was some vague problem about incompatibility of racing seats with the seatbelt with built-in airbag. I suppose they could either drop the seatbelt airbag or find some other workaround....
Even in the brochure it was mentioned as a means of driver acclimation to the car. I mean, I don't consider the IS F a drag race oriented vehicle either, but I've done plenty of straight line runs with heavy braking just to figure out characteristics like weight balance changes.
Even in the brochure it was mentioned as a means of driver acclimation to the car. I mean, I don't consider the IS F a drag race oriented vehicle either, but I've done plenty of straight line runs with heavy braking just to figure out characteristics like weight balance changes.
02-23-11, 07:29 PM
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So lets make a guesstimate of what the weight reductions will be. Seeing as how the doors are all carbon, the Alcantara is abundant with leather only on the steering wheel and door handles. Carbon fiber in place of metal in the center console. Carbon Fiber bucket seats instead of the plush original power seats. Lightweight forged (magnesium?) wheels. Fixed Carbon Fiber wing.
What do you guys think the weights would be added up? I think the main thing will be the seats and all the alcantara instead of leather. Don't know the weight of the original seats, but I'm assuming the total weight savings is over 100lbs.
What do you guys think the weights would be added up? I think the main thing will be the seats and all the alcantara instead of leather. Don't know the weight of the original seats, but I'm assuming the total weight savings is over 100lbs.
02-24-11, 08:59 AM
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Enjoy this Video of the Nürburgring Packaged LFA un-loading....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jisrdwuJkOU
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- First exclusive footage of the Lexus LFA Nürburgring Package being started and unloaded for it's first photoshoot in Tokyo, Japan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jisrdwuJkOU
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02-24-11, 01:05 PM
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Only about a week left before we see live shots of it. I wish they would have brought it in white though. I like orange, but I think white offset with the color of carbon fiber would be killer. Besides all that, I'm more interested in the weight loss and the times that are really achievable with this thing. 3.7 to 100kmh is conservative, considering LC and stickier tires are on this thing.
02-25-11, 03:49 AM
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Focusing on 0-60 is not really important. High revving engines have never been good at these type of tests. Why can't we let these times go and focus more on what it does on tracks?
02-25-11, 07:17 AM
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Thank you, sicklex. Lexus says 3.6 seconds was tested without launch control system and with two people on board (source: Lexus LFA home page). Absolutely I believe Lexus LFA is easily low-11s with proper launch control system and good dry traction.
Last edited by 05RollaXRS; 02-25-11 at 07:24 AM.