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Old 10-21-09, 08:52 AM   #406
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Old 10-21-09, 08:53 AM   #407
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The other features like adjustable drive modes, the screen thingy and a few other things are nice.

My only gripe indeed is the rear-end.

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Hey TRD, they bare releasing a LFA-R. It is going to be the race type with weight reduction ect, ect.
Awesome, do you know when it will be released? I assume the LFA-R will be part of the 500 limit for production, or will it have it's own separate limit?

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see, now you are realizing the idea behind the design and innovations of this car. lexus has gone in a slightly different direction. no one knows if it's the best one, but imho it's the right one. people look at hp and tq and say blah, and to me that just shows how little they know and how badly nowadays' marketing has blinded them
The amount of intangibles, details, and innovations in this car is truly mind-boggling! Lexus was not kidding when they initially stated this was a "revolutionary" supercar.

Some previews/reviews so far have said the car is more stable and predictable at speeds over 170 mph than a Porsche or Ferrari!

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Exactly!!!!!!
If I had the money, I would buy the car for the engine response and sound alone! It's as close as you can get to an F1 engine without actually piloting a real F1 car .

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If a Japanese supercar costs $375k, I expect a pure world domination. but looks like lexus made a great car on par with many great supercars.

imagine nissan building a $375k car? it would probably destroy every car in the planet.


I think GTR spoiled me.
If a Bugatti costs 2 Million, or a Koenigsegg CCX cost over 500K USD, then I expect them to be able to fly, and to travel back in time .

Imagine this, imagine that. If, but, and, only.

The fact is, LEXUS has made a "375K" exotic supercar, and Nissan has NOT. When and if Nissan makes one, we will talk.

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I will add this for now... I commend Lexus for creating this machine. I would have been IMPRESSED however... To see it priced @ $200k and STILL best the GT-R's numbers. For all those crying about "But it's a different car with a different purpose." Oooookkkkkaaaay, I get that. But like it or not... Prepare for the onslaught of direct comparisons to the mighty GT-R or even a $100k ZR-1 as they have set the precedence for performance cars lately: Sports, Super AND Exotic.
I highly disagree, and so do a lot of exotic and supercar buyers. Veyron owners will laugh at you if you ever make a GT-R or ZR-1 comparison. Even Pagani Zonda or Carrera GT owners will laugh. So to will actual LFA owners laugh at such comparisons.

Let me paint a picture: the GT-R and ZR-1 were designed with strict time AND budget limitations.

The Veyron project had NO budget and NO time limitations. The LFA also had NO time and NO budget limitations. The only limitations the LFA project had were that of the engineers' imaginations, just like the Veyron.
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I don't quite consider it an exotic also. I think it's a Super-GT car, but not an exotic. And 375 is wayyy off the mark. How can you enter into a new niche segment and out sell Ferrari from the jump!?
its certainly exotic car... unlike R8 :-)
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Awesome, do you know when it will be released? I assume the LFA-R will be part of the 500 limit for production, or will it have it's own separate limit?

It is included in the limited 500 unit production.
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I highly disagree, and so do a lot of exotic and supercar buyers. Veyron owners will laugh at you if you ever make a GT-R or ZR-1 comparison. Even Pagani Zonda or Carrera GT owners will laugh. So to will actual LFA owners laugh at such comparisons.

Let me paint a picture: the GT-R and ZR-1 were designed with strict time AND budget limitations.


The Veyron had NO budget and NO time limitations. The LFA also had NO time and NO budget limitations. The only limitations the LFA project had were that of the engineers' imaginations, just like the Veyron.
LOLZ!!! Is anyone here surprised???

I like the comparisons to the Veyron TRD. So why then are the numbers not nearly as close? Afterall... Imagination is everything.
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It is included in the limited 500 unit production.
What is the price/specs/weight difference between the LFA and LFA-R ? Is it even known yet ?
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LOLZ!!! Is anyone here surprised???

I like the comparisons to the Veyron TRD. So why then are the numbers not nearly as close? Afterall... Imagination is everything.
The Veyron is about ridiculous 0-60 and top speed times. The LFA is all about FEEL, handling, and response. Did I mention handling and response?
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Dave, I have removed your picture & TX's response, that's not too appropiate, please continue discussion civilly, thanks.
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im goign to be hoenst...

Styling marks (IMHO):

Interior is a 15/10 This is the best interior for a car I have ever seen, upping the Aston martin and Audi S5/R8 (S5 WAS my fav auto interior)

Exterior overall 8/10
Exterior rear 7/10
Exterior front 5/10
Exterior side 8.5/10

Vehicle overall interior/exterior 8.5/10


sorry but thats just my thoughts. They could have done a better job with the front.
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Sorry if this is a repost... this is a long thread to go all the way through.


Lexus LFA

Test date Monday, October 12, 2009 Price as tested TBA


What it is it?

The LFA is Lexus’s long awaited first supercar. Six years in the making, and subject to a major rethink mid development, the LFA faces a fair amount of expectation.

Still, the final on-paper stats certainly justify the supercar billing. A bespoke 4.8-litre V10 producing 552bhp and revving to 9000rpm. A transaxle six-speed automated sequential gearbox. Extensive use of carbonfibre reinforced plastic for the chassis construction and body panels. Conventional rear-wheel drive, and no hybrid drive. The LFA also comes with a supercar price tag of 375,000 euros (£343,000).
What’s it like?

At first very Lexus like. The styling is pretty out there, but the attention to detail, and production is absolutely first rate. Open the doors, bonnet or boot and you’ll find exposed carbonfibre, but carbon that it is so beautifully finished you find yourself starring at it.

Similarly the interior is incredibly well finished, with a mixture of leather, carbon, aluminium and a super high tech TFT screen rev-counter. The best detail though are the pedals which simply exquisite – each one a single piece of forged aluminium. So the typical Lexus virtues of quality and refinement are very much intact in even this, its most extreme model.

That impression doesn’t change when you first twist the conventional key and press the steering wheel mounted starter button. The engine flares a little as it catches, but then settles to an idle as smooth and restful as any other Lexus.

Prod the throttle, though, and the LFA hints a character about as far removed from any existing Lexus as you could possibly imagine. The engine revs rise and fall so quickly and with such a sharp timbre that it feels like a pure race engine. While a torque figure of 354 lb ft may look a little weedy next to rivals with larger capacity engines, or forced induction, there is no shortage of straight-line performance.

Lexus’s claim of 0-62mph in 3.7sec and a top speed of 202mph feel completely believable. You just need to keep the revs up to get the most from the engine. That's not something you’ll mind doing, because from 6000rpm onwards the engine produces one of the best engine notes of any car on sale. It’s similar to a V10 BMW M5, but higher pitched and a lot louder; more like a Carrera GT.

It is at this point you look at the cars the people at Lexus (or Toyota) have produced before and start wondering where on earth the LFA has come from. It is so raw, intense and manic.

What's more, the gearbox is no different. Because Lexus wanted the engine to rev with as little inertia as possible, it opted for a single clutch gearbox, which it also believes gives a greater sense of involvement than a double clutch gearbox. In its most extreme mode (there a four maps, and seven shift speeds) it works very well on full throttle upshifts at or near the limiter, and is certainly quick, but at anything less it feels a little too involving. In the less extreme modes, the change is slower and less physical, but still not smooth, and in its slowest mode, can feel like it is slipping the clutch. Overall the gearbox is one of only two things I’m not so sure about the LFA.

The other is the steering, which unusually for a supercar is electrically assisted. While it is super precise, and very quick it takes some getting used to, mostly because it is very light. There is a reasonable flow of information from the wheel, and the movement away from the straight-ahead is progressive, but the LFA does not steer as intuitively as the best sportscars.

Small question mark over the steering aside, the LFA handles brilliantly. With extensive use of carbonfibre the LFA is a) pretty light for a front-engineed supercar at 1480kg, and b) incredibly rigid. And on the road you can feel this lightness and strength in the LFA’s willingness to change direction, with minimal roll and zero flex. Like the engine there is very little inertia, combined (on a dry road at least) with masses of lateral grip.

The brakes, which are carbon ceramic are monumentally strong, but also precise.

Should I buy one?

That is the tricky question. Firstly because Lexus is asking a whooping amount of money for it, and secondly because it will only produce 500 examples.

What is clear though, is that the LFA is packed with technology that has been developed to an incredibly high standard, presumably at astronomical cost to Toyota. And we’d guess that for some individuals, gaining access to such exclusive technology will justify the LFA’s price.

What’s more impressive though, is that the LFA has a character of its own, rather follow a preset supercar template. That it is more solidly constructed than anything Italian, and less flamboyant, is perhaps to be expected from a Lexus. What’s surprising though is how honed and sharp it feels to drive. While it has GT qualities it’s no soft-edged GT. Instead it is a serious and credible supercar.

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i dont know why they couldnt just use the LFA II front and just tweak ONLY the headlight design as that was a bit too concept-ish.

thats all they had to do..the rest of the LFA II front looked production ready. I saw the vehicle in detroit when it was revealed at the auto show.

The front end of the production is busy/overly done that its not my cup of tea. As much as i hate saying this, it does look like a jack o lantern look.




p.s. im still confused why you put a key in to turn the ignition and then push the button on the steering wheel????

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The Veyron is about ridiculous 0-60 and top speed times. The LFA is all about FEEL, handling, and response. Did I mention handling and response?
hehe good point there.

People who want this and have the money for it will not hesitate going with this one.........even the car looks ugly (especially the rear end which is fail), these select group of individuals will still buy it.

Just my only gripe though:
I hope Lexus cuts its slacking in the exterior design department as reflected in the rear design of this car (i mean are they still hiring those summer interns?). I hope they take note of that........
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p.s. im still confused why you put a key in to turn the ignition and then push the button on the steering wheel????
It is because it has a race-style ignition.

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hehe good point there.

People who want this and have the money for it will not hesitate going with this one.........even the car looks ugly (especially the rear end which is fail), these select group of individuals will still buy it.

Just my only gripe though:
I hope Lexus cuts its slacking in the exterior design department as reflected in the rear design of this car (i mean are they still hiring those summer interns?). I hope they take note of that........
To each their own. The styling looks very good, especially from the rear. Some people hate the styling of the Veyron, Enzo, and Carrera GT. It's all preference.
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