Is the Lexus LFA more durable than a Ferrari?
05-26-12, 10:19 AM
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That is all true with the prototype Matte Black, Pearl Yellow and production Black #032. Every mile on each of those cars have been hard and the cars never skip a beat.
05-29-12, 04:57 PM
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Here is another example of Ferrari durability - not.
Ferrari FF caught fire in Poland.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/05...h-ff-that.html
Ferrari FF caught fire in Poland.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/05...h-ff-that.html
05-29-12, 06:03 PM
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Here is another example of Ferrari durability - not.
Ferrari FF caught fire in Poland.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/05...h-ff-that.html
Ferrari FF caught fire in Poland.
http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/05...h-ff-that.html
at "this is actually the third documented case of an FF going up in flames since... a year ago"Plus from the top of my head, two 458 Italias, one 599 and (I think) one F430 Scuderia... along with one (that I can think of) Aventador (was it a prototype?)
Also way back when I recall one of the first Audi R8 V10 prototypes engulfed in flames while being tested at the Nurburgring. But I guess since it's a prototype we can't count those...
05-29-12, 08:28 PM
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06-18-12, 04:36 PM
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The LFA will definitely be more reliable. But Ferraris aren't as bad as some people make them out to be
I've looked into picking up a used 360 and have done a lot of research on them. The daily driven ones with high mileage actually held up well. I've seen some with 100k+ miles on them. A few owners told me to expect about $1 of maintenance for every mile you drive. Doesn't sound too ridiculous IMO.
I can't speak for the 430 or 458. Unfortunately they're out of my price range and I never looked into them.
I've looked into picking up a used 360 and have done a lot of research on them. The daily driven ones with high mileage actually held up well. I've seen some with 100k+ miles on them. A few owners told me to expect about $1 of maintenance for every mile you drive. Doesn't sound too ridiculous IMO.
I can't speak for the 430 or 458. Unfortunately they're out of my price range and I never looked into them.
06-28-12, 08:23 AM
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06-29-12, 07:02 AM
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And the problems continue to plague
06-29-12, 07:52 AM
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I don't think it's fair to criticize Ferrari for recalls. Every brand has recalls, even Lexus.
As for engine longevity, I learned something here. I had no idea Ferrari engines need to be replaced after 25K miles. It can't be all of them but it must be many. That would explain why people rarely drive the cars......something I have always wondered about.
I can't believe the LFA engine would need to be replaced after 50K miles, even with the high sprung nature. It is a Lexus and I expect it to be as reliable as any other Lexus. If it isn't, changes need to be made to make it so.
I would welcome a lower revving but higher torque producing engine for faster off the line starts and more power throughout the rev band. As it is now we have a 400K car that loses 0-60 sprints to GTR's and Porsche 911's.
As for engine longevity, I learned something here. I had no idea Ferrari engines need to be replaced after 25K miles. It can't be all of them but it must be many. That would explain why people rarely drive the cars......something I have always wondered about.
I can't believe the LFA engine would need to be replaced after 50K miles, even with the high sprung nature. It is a Lexus and I expect it to be as reliable as any other Lexus. If it isn't, changes need to be made to make it so.
I would welcome a lower revving but higher torque producing engine for faster off the line starts and more power throughout the rev band. As it is now we have a 400K car that loses 0-60 sprints to GTR's and Porsche 911's.
06-29-12, 08:07 AM
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Lexus LFA losing to a Turbo S or Nissan GTR in 0-60 mph is more about the AWD advantage GTR and Turbo S have..
As a matter of fact, LFA makes over 90% of its peak torque all across the rev range and combine that with the short 4.3:1 axle ratio, 4500 - 5000 rpm launches as shown in videos are impossible with LFA on stock tires because it torches rear wheels. It could benefit from sticky tires for better of the line traction and hooking up at 4500 rpm without bogging.
ZR-1, GT2 RS, Mclaren MP4 etc. all of them make gobs of low end torque, but all of them lose to Porsche 911 Turbo S or Nissan GTR in 0-60 mph because all of them are RWD and cannot put their power down as well inspite of them wearing super sticky Corsa or Cup tires.
As a matter of fact, LFA makes over 90% of its peak torque all across the rev range and combine that with the short 4.3:1 axle ratio, 4500 - 5000 rpm launches as shown in videos are impossible with LFA on stock tires because it torches rear wheels. It could benefit from sticky tires for better of the line traction and hooking up at 4500 rpm without bogging.
ZR-1, GT2 RS, Mclaren MP4 etc. all of them make gobs of low end torque, but all of them lose to Porsche 911 Turbo S or Nissan GTR in 0-60 mph because all of them are RWD and cannot put their power down as well inspite of them wearing super sticky Corsa or Cup tires.
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