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Old 05-16-12, 12:03 PM   #16
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predictable results sure, but the LFA sounds the best for sure! Not to mention the LFA is still rarer than any of these cars! Nice video!
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Old 05-16-12, 12:14 PM   #17
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predictable results sure, but the LFA sounds the best for sure! Not to mention the LFA is still rarer than any of these cars! Nice video!
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Old 05-16-12, 12:54 PM   #18
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The LFA was made to offer a driving experience unlike any other and not to be a drag racer so there's nothing to be argued about here. The choice of an FR layout is all about balance and maneuverability. If that's not what you're looking for, then move on to your typical supercars with both/either rear-heavy weight distribution and/or AWD traction for sensational straight-line performance at the cost of balance and neutral handling.
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Old 05-16-12, 01:01 PM   #19
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Not fair, I want a sound off comparo, the LFA wins hands down
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Old 05-16-12, 09:42 PM   #20
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Lexus should just change the tires and make launch control much easier...oh and they should have went with a DCT...maybe lose more weight by using thinner glass, lower kg carpet, maybe carbon fiber seats...either way it was nice seeing the cars race each other.
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Old 05-16-12, 10:07 PM   #21
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Lexus should just change the tires and make launch control much easier...oh and they should have went with a DCT...maybe lose more weight by using thinner glass, lower kg carpet, maybe carbon fiber seats...either way it was nice seeing the cars race each other.
Tires would make a big difference. It would be interesting to see the Nurburgring edition test since it comes with high grip tires (Potenza RE70 tires). In European tests, the Nurburgring edition did a 0 - 124 mph (200 km/h) 8/10th of a second quicker than the standard LFA.

Unless all of luxury amenities are taken out, the weight reduction almost seems impossible. The Nurburgring edition has a lot more carbon fiber parts and seats, but it still oddly weighs barely 80 lbs less than the standard LFA. Being an FR layout, the diff adds a lot of weight.

Regarding the transmission, all other brands use single-clutch automated manual in their endurance racing cars (and F1 racing cars) and dual-clutches in their road-going cars, Lexus decided to keep it consistently the same transmission for both variants. The racing car uses the identical tranny.

The official reasoning given is that that LFA's single-clutch is half the mass of an average dual clutch transmission, handles the revs LFA needed with more reliability over extended miles and also has much smaller packaging.

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Old 05-17-12, 04:49 AM   #22
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I hope you realize, then, why Lexus chose the tires they did as well if you have reasoning for the other things you mentioned. The slower times don't make it any less of a car. I would love to park one in my garage!
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Old 05-17-12, 11:20 AM   #23
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I think the LFA can weigh less with deleting options like the carpets, the sound system, the adjustable seats etc. The 'Ring edition is basically the same car in that regard, except if you go the route I'm talking about. But people getting the LFA don't seem to want it stripped and decontented.
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In the end... LFA still got smoked by a v8... yikes
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In the end... LFA still got smoked by a v8... yikes
Correction: V8 + two big honking turbos feeding the engine

Huge difference.

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Correction: V8 + two big honking turbos feeding the engine

Huge difference.
again, while i don't really care that much about drag races like this (i care more about whole package, which is why i like the lfa), for the sake of argument


but in the end, i never think number of cylinders dictates everything. i mean, freaking gtr (turbo v6) won it all
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Can we make the Lambo as fast as the Bugatti, give it the sound of LFA, and the maneuverability of a MP4-12C?
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Correction: V8 + two big honking turbos feeding the engine

Huge difference.
Not like Lexus didnt have a choice in using FI , their fault
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Not like Lexus didnt have a choice in using FI , their fault
That was not the purpose of the comment. The purpose was to point out a inaccuracy in your comment. You are subject to your opinions, but you should keep things in their full context and not take them out of it.

Obviously, going with a naturally aspirated engine is a design decision as the chief engineer had developed the Supra MK4 in the past. I would recommend you study what are the design, dynamic and driving advantages of natural aspiration and why Lexus decided not to slap a turbocharger on the V10 (hint: something to do with racing).

When you said "LFA V10 got beaten by a V8". That is simply not true since that 3.8L V8 engine without the twin turbos does not even make 250 HP at that compression level. Now the accurate statement in full context would be "LFA V10 got beaten by a twin turbo charged V8 engine" and no one would have corrected you on anything.

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Old 05-18-12, 09:45 AM   #30
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Not like Lexus didnt have a choice in using FI , their fault
This is the wrong forum to have your own opinion. You will be 'corrected' until you conform to the notion that every fallacy of the LFA has to be explained away via expert analysis....
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