TF109B

^That's 220lbs. So is that from the 34xxlbs.? Which would put it around 3200lbs. When Chris Harris tested it he said it weighed a little more than a GT3 racer, they come in around 2800-2900lbs. If 100kg is the weight lost, I wonder what the basis of this is. Hopefully we find out soon.

05RollaXRS

The Nurburgring edition has never been weighed before (including the Chris Harris test where it was only quoting an mfg. estimate as Evo magazine never weighs the test cars).

It is deja vu all over again as the same argument was on the standard LFA when many found it hard to believe it was 3500 lbs, but that is exactly what it turned out to be consistently.

This is the first time NE has been weighed and it seems it might be max 50 KG lighter than the standard LFA. Typically, like I said before SportAuto's weight have never been innaccurate and definitely it would be no different here.

TF109B

They weighed a spec'd out car (standard LFA) with all the luxury equipment (Nurb edition has no leather, power seats etc.) plus a driver and it was a pre-production car. Chris Harris was just quoting what Lexus stated and said it weighed only a bit more than a GT3 racer. I think the Nurb edition is around 3200lbs. Not 3400lbs. Their weight is probably with the driver, the roll cage, and full tanks. Who knows, but I have a feeling it's not as heavy as they say.

05RollaXRS

They use the exact same standard method to weigh all cars (no driver, full weight and all fluids including full tank of gas).

Again, all of the other car weights (I posted above) have been consistent with what they typically are in other tests (standard LFA, for example of 1580 KG is spot-on). Definitely, that is how much LFA NE weighed in their test. There is no doubt about it.

The only additional weight (and very likely) could be of the roll cage, but nothing else is not standard equipment. I think all in all weight difference is about 100 - 120 lbs.

05RollaXRS

I have not seen scans yet, but found this on fastestlaps.com. LFA NE achieved the highest score possible by Sport Auto.

They got 0 - 200 km/h (125 mph) in a blistering 11.2 seconds.

05RollaXRS

Lexus LFA Nurburgring edition 0 - 285 km/h

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5KIs9Pzgek

05RollaXRS

Engine: 4.8 Liter V10 40 valves
Power: 571 DIN HP @ 8700 rpm
Torque: 354 ft-lbs@7000 rpm
Weight: 1563 KG (3438 lbs)
Tires: Bridgestone Potenza RE70 street tires

0 - 200 km/h (125 mph):

Saurma's Comments: Perfect launch control system for maximum fast starts makes it reach 200 km/h in just 11 seconds.

Lexus LFA: 11.2 secs
Corvette ZR1: 11.4 secs
Nissan GTR '12: 11.5 secs
Gallardo LP560-4: 11.6 secs
SLS AMG: 11.7 secs
R8 V10 GT: 12.0 secs
GT3 RS 4.0: 12.0 secs


Nurburgring Nordschliefe:

Saurma's Comments: Lexus gave very limited time for the super test, which allowed only 5 laps out of the LFA and limited practice sessions making it difficult to get comfortable finding the absolute limits of the LFA

7:34


Hockenheimring (2.6 km):

Comments: Over the top agility, massive rear mechanical grip, slight understeer tendency

Lexus LFA: 1:09.5
Porsche GT3 RS 4.0: 1:09.5
R8 V10 GT: 1:09.6
911 GT2: 1:09.7
ZR1: 1:09.7
458 Italia: 1:09.7
GTR '12: 1:09.9


Aerodynamics: 0.40

Comments: 83 kg of downforce over the rear axle at 200 km/h (125 mph)


Maximum cornering g-force: 1.5 g

Comments: The maximum cornering g-forces are approaching borderline R compound slick tires


Overall score:

Lexus LFA NE: 70/70
GT2 RS: 70/70
Maclaren MP4: 70/70
Audi R8 V10 GT: 69/70
Ferrari 430 Scuderia: 69/70
Gallardo LP570-4 SL: 69/70
Porsche GT3 RS 4.0: 69/70
Corvette ZR1: 67/70
458 Italia: 67/70

TF109B

We'll see the weight when someone else gets one without the cage in it. I'm betting it's closer to 3200lbs. Not 3400. I could be wrong, but I'm sticking with what I think. Regardless, a perfect score from this magazine is amazing. This guy had criticisms in the past of the LFA. Looks like that's changed with the Nurburgring Edition.

05RollaXRS

Scans:

TF109B

Too bad it's in German.

05RollaXRS

A three way lightweight track car comparison:

Lexus LFA vs Porsche GT3 RS 4.0 vs Audi R8 V10 GT:

p.s. As noted above, Lexus allowed very limited time for the LFA NE test, which resulted in insufficient practice sessions. Saurma had said the car is actually alot faster than the 7:34 suggests

Notice the massive hidden torque of the LFA in the flexibility tests with a 80 - 160 km/h in 10.9 secs using overdrive 6th gear. That is the same as that of a GT2 RS in 6th gear.

Overall scores:

Lexus LFA: 70/70
Audi R8 V10 GT: 69/70
Porsche GT3 RS 4.0: 69/70

TF109B

Kinda disappointing time on Hockenheim short. I think he could have reached the 1:08's easily if he knew the car better. He shoulda been below 7:30 for the 'Ring as well. Oh well, you can see clearly that there's more downforce in this car and the cornering speeds or G's are better than the competition. With higher cornering G's you should be able to take the corner faster. So it's funny to see that some of the turns where his cornering G's are higher than the Porsche and the Audi, the car is slower through them. Especially considering the downforce. The only reason I guess the LFA wasn't as quick in some turns would be from inexperience with the car, or weak tires. I think it may be a combination of both. But good little graph there 'Rolla.

05RollaXRS

Though, they don't grip like racing slick compound tires, the tires seem to be doing a great job on the LFA NE. This is the type of tread that was needed on the standard LFA, but Lexus chose daily drivability.

That still does not change the fact that LFA is the only car not wearing racing compound full slick tires out of the three.

Still, the acceleration numbers are stunning in this supertest where it shows the midrange torque of LFA is as strong as that of a Porsche GT2 RS in the low engine speed flexibility tests (yes, LFA has overall shorter gearing, but still).

It is worthy of nothing, despite LFA having the most downforce, less grippy tires and with only 11 more horsepower than the R8 V10 GT, it is a full 0.8 seconds quicker to 200 km/h (125 mph) than the R8 GT.

As I had stated above, in this case Lexus was to blame for not allowing the proper time for Saurma to get fully comfortable with the car since Lexus needed the car back for some press appearances. Saurma had made sure he mentioned in the test that car is capable of being a lot quicker.

Again, there are lots of great things about this test and their appreciate for this car is something to be admired.

It is one of the best tests I have seen of an LFA or LFA NE considering a German Saurma who is a Porsche test driver and GT3 race car driver, gave LFA the best score higher than that of a GT3 RS 4.0 only shared by GT2 RS and Maclaren MP4.

05RollaXRS

One and only Akira Iida taking Car magazine editior for an easy and casual 7:30 lap:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKsJC...layer_embedded