ap0718

I am about to take the system off my other car and put it in my 1998 GS400.

Here is what I got:

1 Kicker ZR360 (2001 model amp)
1 Kicker ZR240 (2001 model amp)
1 pair of Boston Acoustic 5 1/4 seperates with a .75 tweeter
1 pair of 3-way 6x9's
1 15 inch Kicker Solobaric

Where can i fit these mids and highs in my car. Will I be able to fit them in.

I think I can fit the 5 1/4, but can I fit the 6x9's???

Tell me what you guys think of the setup!!!


Thanks

Ira Senoff

I am about to embark on a similar installation in my 2000 GS 400, providing that all of my equipment comes in in time to complete the install before the IASCA finals.

* Alpine F1 in dash, custom bezel
* Focal Utopia mid & tweet in custom kick panels
* Subs in enclosure in trunk, venting through rear deck
* Zapco Amplification
* All electronics in trunk, mounting configuration to be determined

If I were you, I would do a set of kicks, posibbly extra tweeter in pillar, attenuated, to raise stage and simulate greater depth. Also, I would not use the 6x9 speakers. If I was to use rear speakers, 6x9's wouldn't be the choice. I have had several IASCA competition vehicles and I have never used rear fill to enhance the sound stage. I have been judging IASCA events since 1993 and, to date, have heard very few cars use rear fill effectively. I usually just get drawn to the rear by rear speakers. Lastly, with a well thought out and properly constructed front speaker array, rear speakers are not needed. Now, you can scrap all of what I just said if you are running a 5.1 system in your car but you failed to mention a center channel speaker and/or an AV system.

BTW - what processing are you using?

Percy

I definitely agree with Ira on this one. Stay away from the 6x9's! I don't know of any high end 6x9's since most manufacturers will go for component 6.5's or 5 1/4's. Reason being is that they sound better and have less cone flexure and thus, less distortion. With the 6x9, you'll get a flexing on the longest dimension of the cone which is pretty much normal for any oval speaker. High end manufacturers use rounds.

The 3 way 6x9's are even worse. You have no control over their crossover networks (at least on Pioneer ones anyways) and everything is pretty much a compromise. You do have a good start with the BA 5 1/4 seperates though.

As for rear fill, it's pretty tricky to get it just right. Some competitors use them, others don't. Basically two philosophies here. One is that in a live concert you don't hear musicians behind you, thus no rear fill. The other philosophy is that even though you have musicians performing in front of you, there is reflected sound behind you, thus the rear fill. I've listened to a XESZ50 system (Sony's top end at 16 to 18 grand!) and it had no rear fill, but it sounded "dry". Also lacked alot of depth. Staging was so-so but they dynamics were excellent.

It's your call on the rear fil. I'd use it but as Ira mentions, it's very easy to do it wrong!

Percy